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Typhonian and Ma'at formula


 Anonymous
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

On lashtal.com there have been several discussions regarding the XI°, its nature and its whereabouts. Crowley enthused about the Eye of Horus being far superiour to the Mouth of Isis, but I did not come across this teaching in detail. I only met vague allusions or private interpretations and some individual work in the XI° manner. The matter has been discussed in many internet groups. Again, I came across a puzzling statement on a website that still gives me the creeps but at the same time offers new insights for me as someone who also prefers the XI° formula in the Ma’atian sense.


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Michael Bertiaux's XI° of the O.T.O.A. system went much further than what Crowley had done so little to elaborate in Kabbalistic or practical terms. It was proclaimed that "The next Aeon will be male homosexual (Typhon) and lesbian (Ma'at formula) strongly."
In Bertiaux's 16 degree system of the O.T.O.A sexmagick starts with the VIII° (swords), IX° (cups), X° (wands), XI° (coins). Then there are the higher secrets related to the tattwas and the elements: XII° (prithiwitattwa), XIII° (apastattwa), XIV° (vayutattwa), XV° (tejastattwa), XVI° (akashatattwa), these latter four grades being purely homosexual degrees.

But one of the proponents of the Aeon of Maat (proclaimed by C.S. Jones in 1948) Maggie Ingalls "Andahadna, Nema" does not believe this; she believes that sex-magic is overvalued, and no longer places an image of Baphomet (which exhibits both male and female sexual organs) at the centre of her rituals - instead she uses a Gynander, which is itself concealed.

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I found this at http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/xi.ht m"> http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/sunrise/xi.htm and a scan of one of the pertinent documents regarding the homosexual nature of the next aeon at http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/2006/otoa/otoa.ht m"> http://user.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/2006/otoa/otoa.htm (b.t.w. this page shows a painting by Michael Bertiaux which I have not seen before).

As we have here on lashtal.com several members of said O.T.O.A. (for example TauMelchizedek) I'd like to know whether Bertiaux' assumptions regarding a strong homosexual and lesbian formula in the new Aeon are still valid.

Love is the Law, Love under Will.


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 Anonymous
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Greetings,
this quote is one that shows the selectivity/or limitation of what can to be found on Koenig's site. Also these quotes and info are decades old...
I can tell you also that the above info in regards to the degree system are absolutely wrong. That these degrees are strictly homosexual is absolute nonsense - they can be worked in different ways, plus we have a very unique approach to sexuality which for some reasons transcends 'labeling'. But this would go too far now.
In regards to the Aeon of Maat, what you read there is a personal opinion and idea of Bertiaux, taken out of its context probably - and not OTOA/LCN teaching. If he still holds this idea I am not sure but I will ask him. I guess we will see if Maat is upon us 🙂


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RuneLogIX
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"TauMelchizedek" wrote:
Greetings,
this quote is one that shows the selectivity/or limitation of what can to be found on Koenig's site. Also these quotes and info are decades old...
I can tell you also that the above info in regards to the degree system are absolutely wrong. That these degrees are strictly homosexual is absolute nonsense - they can be worked in different ways, plus we have a very unique approach to sexuality which for some reasons transcends 'labeling'. But this would go too far now.

Hmm, forgive me but I'm initially skeptical about 'unique approach to sexuality.' I understand that might be all you can say publicly about the matter but if it involves concourse with xenodeimensional entities, egregors, or the application of human sex parts on other sex parts (including the Yod) there isn't anything so new under the stars to defy understanding in categorical and scientific terms.

In Prophetes Veritas Venit. Quod ambulas cum Thelema et Agape est semper fidelis pietas.


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 Anonymous
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Hi runelogix,

I understand what you say and I would agree in this respect a 100%. What I meant was more in regards to the classification of sexual orientation - gay, straight, lesbian etc.
I am in a haste today, so excuse this short answer,

'best

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 Anonymous
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Sexmagick is my favourite magick, its the only magick I can work. I remember seeing the image of the Baphomet in a book of the occult my father owed and its power has never left me. I used to sneek the book out just to see that image by Eliphas Lévi. I even imagined myself to be the Baphomet and often play this role in my sexual rituals.

Me- http://www.geocities.com/badfreddy1975/badsam 😐


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RuneLogIX
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"badfreddy" wrote:
Sexmagick is my favourite magick, its the only magick I can work. I remember seeing the image of the Baphomet in a book of the occult my father owed and its power has never left me. I used to sneek the book out just to see that image by Eliphas Lévi. I even imagined myself to be the Baphomet and often play this role in my sexual rituals.

Me- http://www.geocities.com/badfreddy1975/badsam 😐

-1 off topic. Thanks for sharing, I guess

In Prophetes Veritas Venit. Quod ambulas cum Thelema et Agape est semper fidelis pietas.


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