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Is anyone familiar with a book called 'Typhonian Teratomas' or any other writings by Mishlen Linden. I stumbled across it on google earlier. Any good? Is it important or useful addition to the Typhonian tradition?


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Teratoma = "The word comes from a Greek term meaning roughly "monster tumor".

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"lashtal" wrote:
Teratoma = "The word comes from a Greek term meaning roughly "monster tumor".

Aye. It's a title chapter in 'Nightside of Eden' as well as a book by Mishlen Linden.


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I'm aware of that, I just wonder what Typhonian Tumours is supposed to mean...

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Well, we'll have to read the book won't we? 😉


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Why?

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I emailed her this morning on my own behalf to ask if the booklet, which I haven't read and am also curious about, was still available, so should be able to let you know that when I hear back from her.

Her artwork is very impressive indeed: I've come across very little of her writing, but what I have seen is interesting.

You can find work of hers online at the Bate Cabal/Black Moon Web website, and in the Silver Star journal issued via the Horus/Maat Lodge.


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"felis_silvestris" wrote:
Her artwork is very impressive indeed: I've come across very little of her writing, but what I have seen is interesting.

You can find work of hers online at the Bate Cabal/Black Moon Web website, and in the Silver Star journal issued via the Horus/Maat Lodge.

I've found some of her writings on working theTunnels of Set at the Black Moon site. The site doesn't look as if it's currently maintained though.
I've not seen any of the art work but will check out the stuff at Silver Star.
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If you rummage around the Bate Cabal / Black Moon Web site, you'll find a lot of Mishlen's artwork in the Nu-Ikon Virtual Gallery.


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Black Moon Bate Cabal can be explored here, http://www.blackmoon7.com/ lots of good stuff, great site.

Ever read the Invisibles?(before I go, I'd like to note that I'm aware that it's fiction, and a comic book) There is a part in there where there is this weird mass of fungus, plants, limbs and animal parts growing in the basement of a church, which turns out to be otherworldly entities of the Qliphotic type trying to enter our world by creating a physical body for themselves, a demonic "tumor" if you will. I think that's a pretty good allegory for what a Typhonian Teratoma is, when those sub conscious lurkers in the mauve zone well up and spill over into the physical realm.
I thought Typhonian Teratomas was one of the most impressive and most ingenuitive ritual "workbooks" ever published.


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I have this book and it is a collection of interesting little bits on the Tunnels of Set. I'd suggest getting the Shadow Tarot to work with the book though. Very shamanic and voudon influenced also...


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"lashtal" wrote:
I'm aware of that, I just wonder what Typhonian Tumours is supposed to mean...

Perhaps...

"Liber LXV" wrote:
Wolf's bane is not so sharp as steel; yet it pierceth the body more subtly.
Even as evil kisses corrupt the blood, so do my words devour the spirit of man.
I breathe, and there is infinite dis-ease in the spirit.
As an acid eats into steel, as a cancer that utterly corrupts the body; so am I unto the spirit of man.
I shall not rest until I have dissolved it all.

Or...

"Shel Silverstein" wrote:
I'm being eaten by a Boa Constrictor,
And I don't like it one bit.
Oh no, it's nibblin' my toe.
Oh gee, it's up to my knee.
Oh my, it's up to my thigh.
Oh fiddle, it's up to my middle.
Oh heck, it's up to my neck.
Oh dread, it's mm-mm-mm-mm...

😈 / 😆


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Is anyone familiar with a book called 'Typhonian Teratomas'

I actually have this book. It's quite brief and contains several pages of text and two diagrams. The text contains descriptions of a number of cards that relate to both the tarot and the Qliphoth. The text is supplemented with a table and diagram that illustrates the above relationship.


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TYPHONIAN TERATOMAS

Oh, hum, we all love a good joke about big balls and swollen testicles... keeps the lads laughing in the pub all night, for some reason, but I'm no psychologist...

teratomas: "a tumour of heterogenous tissues esp. of the gonoads" - so much for thr Concise Oxford Dictionary,

teras - Classical Greek - 'monster', combined with stoma- 'mouth' - so a precise definition of this medical term might actually be translated as "monster mouth", (possibly suits a few people we know and love and loathe ?)

But it can mean so much more: 'A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament' Prepared by Barclay M. Newman, Jr. - United Bible Societies, 1971:
teras, teratos n. a wonder, object of wonder; omen, something indicating a coming event.

The only N.T. text that uses it (to the best of my knowledge) is the Gospel of Matthew 24.24: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that,, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (The same text is more or less repeated i Mark, Chapter 13, but with some intersting dissonances on the A of D theme - Let he who has knowledege and all that initiated crap).

smeia megala kai terata

How does this relate to Kenneth Grant and the Typhonian Trilogies. Well, before some of you start rubbing your hands in glee, you may wish to consider the rest of this 'Second Coming' chapter and consider the relationships with the Abomination of Desolation, and the configurations of whom the 'false messiahs' may actually be...

I am not aware that Kenneth Grant has professed to be a Classical Greek scholar - Indian Mysticism being his more specialised field of wild Typhonian dreams - so ok, 'Teratomas' is not a bad stab, but maybe we should correct it to 'Typhonian Terata' (terata typhonika, but the essence remains the same.

Ah, such a weekend of intellectual endeavour, when I ought really to have been f*****g astral squids!!

Love is the law, love under will.

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"Satan'sAdvocaat" wrote:
TYPHONIAN TERATOMAS

Oh, hum, we all love a good joke about big balls and swollen testicles... keeps the lads laughing in the pub all night, for some reason, but I'm no psychologist...

A bit "testie" there Monsieur le avocat

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Soory excuse my quotation in experince, the joke was....
A bit "testie" there Monsieur le Avocat.
No, oh well never mind, not really worth the edit I agree.


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I've just got a copy of this book and it seems that it's meant to be used in conjunction with Linda Falorio's "Shadow Tarot", though if you don't happen to own that particular deck there's a handy table at the front of the book telling you what colours, shapes etc, to use for each entity.
I thought I'd have a go at creating my own deck as it's relatively straight forward and I thought it'd be a nice little project to keep me out of mischief. It's Plain sailing until you get to card 22; Lafcursiax, the sigil is to be rendered in pale green, the background is a blue eight sided circle. WTF is an eight sided circle? any ideas?


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we call it an Octogram. 😛


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"uranus" wrote:
we call it an Octogram. 😛

Hmm, are we referring to the opposite of a triangle 😆 or the star of Lakshmi, neither of which seem very circular to me. 😆


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I have this book as well and I found it very interesting. I purchased it new on Amazon a year ago. You can also find the Shadow tarot book there as well but it is a bit pricey considering how many copies seem to be available.

ah well.

Great insight on the title. I too was pondering the many connotations 🙂

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"lashtal" wrote:
I'm aware of that, I just wonder what Typhonian Tumours is supposed to mean...
"lashtal" wrote:
Teratoma = "The word comes from a Greek term meaning roughly "monster tumor".

Maybe the modern mundane medical usage of the word is not the intended reading? In context, after consulting a dictionary, and in the absence of a desire to scoff, the idea it presents to me is simply the idea of "monster" or "marvellous" objects/entities. I might be wrong, it could be intended as read as "Typhonian Tumours" but I'd be surprised if this was so. Maybe it's just meant as "Growth" or "Growths"?

Perhaps the Society's Hellenophones can help?

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Greetings!

Well, this is what I found regarding the word teratoma (τεράτωμα) in my dictionaries:

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Teratoma: (biology) neoplasia which grows from embryonic elements or from semen. [Scholar < French: Teratome < Ancient Greek: τερατ- (monster) –ome= ωμα.
(Lexicon of Common Greek, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, 2005)
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Τέρας, genitive τέρατος, plural τέρατα….. A rare (unusual) sign (natural phenomenon), miracle, omen (mostly a bad one). In Latin portentum, prodigium. -II. Everything used as an augury, as a prognostic, until now as freak or prodigy, “freakish /monstrous creature”, bizarre, quaint, huge, etc., in Latin: mons’rum.
2. as in Latin signum, celestial sign, διοσημία, star sign, meteor. (compare: τείρεα).
Etymology: τέρας (genitive: τέρατος and other declinations ending to -τ- before their ending, origin mostly in proportional declination of stems ending in -τ-); τέρας < Japanese: *qverfe-es, compare with Homeric πέλωρ (from Jap. qverōr ….) as the Sanskrit āçcarya-h (unusual, wonderful, given that originally the word τέρας used to mean something magical / alluring –in Greek γοητευτικό). Old nor. Skars (Germ. Skarsa-n) (=τέρας, γίγας/giant), skersa (gothic *skars jōn) (=giant), skyrse (germ. *skursja-n, Jap. *sqv(sjom) (bad omen, phantom, chimera), Lithuanian: keras (Jap. *quer-s) (=allure), keriύ, kereti (to bewitch, to cast spells, to cast the evil eye); from Jap. *(s)quer- (I do, I act, also as in I bewitch, I cast the evil eye, compare with the Sanskrit krnō'ti, karō’ti); also compare with Sanskrit kάrtra·m (spell, charm).

(Ancient Greek Lexicon, I.Stamatakou, 2002)

Notes:
1. Τείρεα: (plural οf τέρας in Homer) the celestial bodies, the constellations. Dative plural: τείρεσιν. It is met only in plural form, in Homer. Sanskrit tará (αστήρ). Modern scholars do not accept the connection with τέρας.
2. Διοσημία /diosemia/ : *Δις +σῆμα: a sign from Zeus, an omen from heaven. Latin: ostenium (mostly as thunder, thunderbolt, lightning, rain, etc) // bad omen.
3. Πέλωρ: (το) (indeclinable word) everything huge, but with a negative meaning. (from Jap. qverōr : *qver-&#x0259 s, in Greek τέρας)

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If the book was called Typhonian Teratomas: Their Detection & Cure, the subject would be more obvious.


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"Alan_OBrien" wrote:
If the book was called Typhonian Teratomas: Their Detection & Cure, the subject would be more obvious.

As far as my knowledge of Ancient Greek allows me to speculate, I would translate the title as 'Utterings of Typhonian Portents' or something to this extent. I don't think it refers to tumors et alia. Just my opinion. Hope it helps 😉


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law,

I personally enjoyed the book. It was a quick read, and in the true Typhonian tradition, it explored an interesting tangent not contemplated very much. Or, if the ideas were contemplated, they're not in print. 😉

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Perhaps Hellenophones can help?

The closest τερας (as a substantive) can be conjugated to 'τερατομα' is genitive plural: 'τερατον'

'τερατομα' seems to have no basis in the greek language, other than the established medical tradition of taking a greek/latin root and applying a suffix or prefix to create an accurate medical term, as has already been posted above.

I cant make τερατομα mean anything like 'the words / utterances of Typhon(ians)', the closest i can get to that would be 'οι λεγοντοσ τυφωνοσ', and even then im not particularly happy with it. Maybe the 'O, (the) signs of Typhon' could be read '(οι) τερατα Τυφῶνα' if one were taking it through the accusative(?) or more likely vocative as i have outlined -fleetingly - above.

Just for my t'uppeneth, i feel the title probably is related to teratomata; after all having an eye, hair, finger or tooth growing inside a cyst located near to / within the testis or ovary is pretty repellant, even if the growth is more often than not benign. Strikes the right kind of chord wrt the book's (ive not read it and doubt i shall, but from what i can infer) theme...


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"Twin_Star" wrote:

Perhaps Hellenophones can help?

The closest τερας (as a substantive) can be conjugated to 'τερατομα' is genitive plural: 'τερατον'

'τερατομα' seems to have no basis in the greek language, other than the established medical tradition of taking a greek/latin root and applying a suffix or prefix to create an accurate medical term, as has already been posted above.

I cant make τερατομα mean anything like 'the words / utterances of Typhon(ians)', the closest i can get to that would be 'οι λεγοντοσ τυφωνοσ', and even then im not particularly happy with it. Maybe the 'O, (the) signs of Typhon' could be read '(οι) τερατα Τυφῶνα' if one were taking it through the accusative(?) or more likely vocative as i have outlined -fleetingly - above.

Just for my t'uppeneth, i feel the title probably is related to teratomata; after all having an eye, hair, finger or tooth growing inside a cyst located near to / within the testis or ovary is pretty repellant, even if the growth is more often than not benign. Strikes the right kind of chord wrt the book's (ive not read it and doubt i shall, but from what i can infer) theme...

Could well be. I was just referring to SA's quoted breakdown of the word in TERAS and STOMA from the Concise Oxford Dictionary.
Mind you TOMARION does translate as 'small tract', 'small volume'.. so if it were to be based on this, it could mean 'small tract of thyphonian wonders' or something to that extent. Then again maybe the author just wanted to shock the reader with reference to testicular cysts.. I guess we'll never know 😉


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I suppose if one wanted to head down that path, one could cite the example: 'Hippocrene', my favourite translation of which is 'draught horse brook', but is actually translated 'horse fountain' (after the wing-ed wonder of course). Now whilst the greeks may have written it Ἱππου κρήνης', its contraction to the Hippocrene form is how we would write it today. So maybe 'teratomas' is actually a (slightly bad) translation of 'wondrous mouthings'. As the poster above has made clear, its unlikely those outside looking in will ever know 😉


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The actual contents of the book are by far the more interesting than it's title and the etymology behind it.
If anyone would care to discuss said contents, I would be more than happy to jump on board.


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"AEternitas" wrote:
The actual contents of the book are by far the more interesting than it's title and the etymology behind it.
If anyone would care to discuss said contents, I would be more than happy to jump on board.

I have ordered it, I will be more than happy to discuss the contents once I get to reading it and possibly working with it.


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I ordered it and read it last year, it's a great tome, and cheaper than the usual fare on here!


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Mishlen Linden's chapbook Typhonian Teratomas: The Shadows of the Abyss, I have my copy of it beside me now; acquired on 25/10/91 e.v. The title obviously takes its inspiration from the chapter of the same title in Kenneth Grant's incredibly influential and fructitous Work The Nightside of Eden. It is a fascinating extension of KG's explorations of the Qlippothic Cells of LIBER CCXXXI which he worked into a practcal system of dark self-navigation during the days of New Isis Workings. Alongside with Linda Falorio's remarkable explorations into the 'Nightside Tarot' (along with her magickal partner N.F., can't quite remember his name) it remains one of the more consolidated presentations of KG's Work.

It's approach and presentation is one of a holistic Shamanistic system; and quite commendable in its way; but in this it may stray from AC's original intention: the testing of Adepts in a well defined and Qabbalistic Framework based upon the Tree of Life. Use it as you will: the Gorgon- Face illustartion on the cover is an indication of the warnings and delights that may be encountered in such magickal workings.

There is still much yet to be said about 'The Tunnels of Set'; I,ve put in my own blood and sweat and tears into such explorations. Back in the early 1990s, after some magickal tunnel delvings into the aethyrs of Amprodias and Thantifaxath (to name just a few of those whom are Legion); I produced a Greek Gematria Profile of the Sentinels of the Qlippoth - KG was not well pleased, and it is probably only thanks towards the interventions of MS that I continue, and remain, a member of the Typhonian Order unto this day.

May Nuit Embrace the Resplendant Ka of Frater Aossic Aiwass and Bless it with Her Kisses unto the Ending of a Million of Years.

Love is the law, love under will.

Fraternal Regards,

Satan's Advocaat.

P.S. 'Typhonian Teratomas' = 'Monstrous Beings' or 'Fabulous Creatures' - nuff' said; but its all down to Blavatsky and Berossus. (I may go into more detail elsewhere).

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I just noticed this. Thanks for plugging my old thread there. I usually don't post on LAShTAL but I'm around in case anyone else wants to discuss this subject.


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