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Available now, the revised paperback edition of Typhonian Rites of Amenta featuring:
 
- Introduction by Dr. Robert Anderson Plimer
- Revised Artwork
- The Cube of T’Nat illustration
- The Altar illustrations
- The Rite of the Broken Wands
- The Comment of the Holy Love
- Le Zodiaque d’Osiris
- Over 145 Updated Footnotes
- New Bibliography
- New Index
- Over 200 pages
 
With an Introduction by Dr. Robert Anderson Plimer, this new paperback expanded edition is a celebration of the Typhonian Tradition, of the unique perspectives of Kenneth Grant and contemporary methods of approaching Nightside practices.
 
Typhonian Rites of Amenta invites both reader and practicing magician to explore the deeper levels and tunnels of ‘Amenta’ beyond the Mauve Zone. It hints at the preparation and methodologies in theoria and praxis that are used to gain ingress through that of an interstitial or liminal space and whereby through symbolicum oppositorium we are at once plunged into a system akin to the Egyptian preparation of the mind and soul as the Akh and Ba unite with the Black Khat or body of Osiris at the deepest level of the Duat.
 
- Come on a journey with with the Seed Ally.
- Travel to the Chthonian cells, to the Tunnels of Set.
- Witness the 1950s London of the New Isis Lodge.
- Ride with the Gods on their sky barque.
 
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law!"
 
These words received by Aleister Crowley in 1904 echo down the generations, asking us to question our actions, our true nature and in turn the very context of magickal expression and understanding within which the words themselves and Thelema became framed.
 
As the figures gather this night, sometime in the late 1950’s, the hustle and bustle of the London streets outside becomes eerily distant. The attendees seem a little on edge, looking from one to the other, noting the detail of robes and masks, of stature and movement. Something is not quite right. Even before the ritual begins it seems that another has joined them, that another walks amongst them unseen. It is the night of the New Moon and the darkness seems to have hidden the arrival of one both familiar and yet separated by decades, outside the restrictive circles of time.
 
Still they remain focussed as the words are intoned and a small, Tibetan bell, sounded. Before them is their leader. Does the Master also sense that there is something different this evening, that a shade of the future walks amongst them even now, having admired the cut of his three-piece suit when he crossed the street outside? He hesitates for a moment, looking about the room and then continues.
 
Typhonian Rites of Amenta not only reveals the answer to this and other questions of a Nightside nature but gives details of the methods and mechanics associated with these rites. Whilst some may be familiar with the sigils of Aleister Crowley’s Liber Arcanorvm or Kenneth Grant’s Nightside of Eden, here they will find new cartographies and new ways of exploring the Tunnels of Choronzon-Set.  
 
For as Dr. Plimer writes in the Introduction, “The questions Sean invites us to ask are: who were these brave esotericists, and who amongst us will retrieve and then continue this great work? The answer is given: the ‘Typhonians’, for it is we who bathe in the rites and light of that lunar sphere, utilising the magick of the New Moon and that of the Nightside Tradition.”
 
 
 
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Over 200 pages

Say, $53 is rather expensive for a 207-page paperback. Unless this is a full-color, premium paper edition - but I could find no reference to such flamboyant enhancements.


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It hints at the preparation and methodologies in theoria and praxis that are used to gain ingress through that of an interstitial or liminal space and whereby through symbolicum oppositorium ...

This is certainly some grade-A bullshitum.

Very curious what if anything Michael Staley may have to say about these "Typhonian rites"?


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  • @shiva Colour is flamboyant eh? Perhaps the deluxe edition from Sirius Limited Esoterica will better suit your finely attuned page per dollar sensitivities 😉

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@ignant666 Great to see opinions expressed so strongly. I’m sure if Mick has a monopoly on ‘Typhonian’ he’ll let me know. The words you found so objectionable belong to Dr Bob Plimer.


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Posted by: @hoodoozendiq

The words you found so objectionable belong to Dr Bob Plimer.

Not so much objectionable as imbecilic, and pompous.

Am i mistaken or are you using his "words" to promote your book? Indeed it is my impression that they are included in the Introduction to your book.

What discipline is Dr. Bob's degree in? From what institution?


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@ignant666 Your ‘impression’ is correct those words are extracted from his Introduction. What’s the obsession with discipline and institution? Are you just looking for another cheap shot if neither meet whatever you deem to be acceptable? 

But as you asked … Graduate and Post Graduate Classics, Classics, Philosophy and Religious Studies and Metaphysics and Philosophy of Mind at Oxford. 


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What’s the obsession with discipline and institution? Are you just looking for another cheap shot if neither meet whatever you deem to be acceptable?

Um, I'm a retired academic, and so i am accustomed, when so-and-so is presented as "Dr." So-and-so, to ask "In what, and from where?"

Pretty standard questions, actually. When i am asked what my Ph.D. is in, for example, i simply answer "Criminology, from the Graduate Center of the City University of New York", and regard this as a commonplace, and perfectly courteous, question. I don't get defensive about it. but then my Ph.D. is a real degree.

I don't think anyone can get a doctoral degree in "Classics, Classics, Philosophy and Religious Studies and Metaphysics and Philosophy of Mind" anywhere, let alone Oxford (we do mean the one in the UK, right?); one must specialize in one of those topics. So was his Oxford doctorate a D.D. (Doctor of Letters), a D. Litt. (Doctor of Literature), or a D.Phil. (a full-on research degree like mine)? 

I mean, i already know dude is full of shit (from the brief excerpt from the introduction to your book that you have provided), i'm just inquiring as to the credentials he claims, as is anyone's right when one goes around claiming credentials. As you may be aware, at least 7/10 claims of doctoral degrees by occultists turn out to be degrees issued by Fly By Night U. His writing causes me to wonder what university might give this person a doctoral degree and in what. He sounds like a dumb person trying to sound smart by using big (and made-up) words.


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[Dr. Robert Anderson Plimer's doctoral degree is in] Graduate and Post Graduate Classics, Classics, Philosophy and Religious Studies and Metaphysics and Philosophy of Mind [from] Oxford.

BTW, you should tell ol' Bob to update his Facebook page- he forgot to include his Oxford doctoral degree! Can you believe it?!?! Still, these things happen.

https://www.facebook.com/bobplimer

Dr. Bob doesn't actually even claim a doctoral degree (or any degrees at all) on his Facebook page, but merely claims to have "Studied Graduate and Postgraduate Classics at Newcastle University" and "Studied Classics Philisophy [sic] and Religious Studies at University of Surrey".

The only mention of Oxford is his claim that he "Studied Metaphysics and Philosophy [got it right that time!] of Mind at Oxford ContEd", which those of us familiar with educational jargon will recognize as a reference to the Department for Continuing Education at Oxford, an "adult education"  program not exactly in the same league as the rest of that distinguished and ancient university. They offer, for example, day-long courses with zero admission requirements that would allow anyone to truthfully state that they "Studied Metaphysics and Philosophy of Mind at Oxford ContEd".


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@ignant666 You had me convinced you were being reasonable right up to “He sounds like a dumb person trying to sound smart by using big (and made-up) words.”

I understand how big bad long-time occupants of these forums like to question everything and tear stuff down but Bob is neither dumb nor in need of sounding smart.

The main reasons I asked him to write the Introduction are his familiarity with the subject matter having lived in Egypt and proficiency with hieroglyphics, proximity to Ordo Typhonis (or Typhonian OTO as it was once known) and expertise on Alchemy.

At this point I’m thankful I did not include my own honorific title Docteur or consecrated title Tau, both in the Voudon Gnostic lineage, I dread to think what they would have incited.

I do get that people who have worked hard to achieve their own education would be dismissive of anyone they thought was just using a title without justification as little by little it devalues such things, so I hope in some small way I may have addressed your concerns.

Although I suspect not.

 

 

 


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P.S Thanks for the detective work, I will mention the Facebook page to him!


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I do get that people who have worked hard to achieve their own education would be dismissive of anyone they thought was just using a title without justification as little by little it devalues such things, so I hope in some small way I may have addressed your concerns.

Although I suspect not.

You are so right on that last one.

And indeed you are so right that i am "dismissive of anyone [who] was just using a title without justification", and would agree that doing so, as "Dr." Bob has done, "devalues such things".

Probably best not to go calling yourself "Docteur" unless you have a real doctoral degree from a real university in a French-speaking country, yes.

Did you think this was some sort of "occult" site where you could huckster your $53 bullshit to gullible rubes without being called on it?

Sorry to burst your bubble, sunshine.


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Hey sunshine, I know exactly what this site is, who it’s longtime protagonists are, including yourself and Shiva, the admin and many others who frequent it. I have been here in various guises long before this iteration of the Aleister Crowley Society. You think I just went “oh look this website has a Typhonian section”? 

I posted this announcement for those who might be interested not for opinionated dismissive elongated dialogue.

You want to call something bullshit from the off without even reading it then fine, you’re entitled to an opinion, just don’t ever think it’s anything more than that.

 

 

I posted this information for those who might be interested 


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Posted by: @hoodoozendiq

You want to call something bullshit from the off without even reading it then fine

Dude, all i did was read the words you posted here, and quote exactly what i was calling bullshit, because it is bullshit. And turns out that your introduction is written by a guy with a phony doctorate.

You are as familiar with this place as you claim, and you expected something different? And you want to keep getting defensive? 

Good luck with the sucker market comrade.

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BTW, do you want to send me a review copy? If so, i'll let you know how to send it. I promise to read every single word, and review it here if you send me one.


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It’s really not intended for the sucker market so it’s a shame that you should think so. 

Hopefully you might find the text itself less pompous. 

If I remember right we lost the private message functionality here some time ago, so sure,  let me know where to send a review copy.

I do appreciate you engaging, if only to make me reconsider what I quote in the book summary!


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I can't find any way to email you from the author website you provide. Please get in touch with my Corresponding Secretary, Mr. Bobo Lopez, at Bobolopez @ [google email].

Mr. Lopez will forward me your contact info, and i will get in touch to provide my mailing address. Mr. Lopez is sometimes distracted by the press of other business (most often "huffing" gasoline, or sometimes paint) and slow to filter my emails, but i will hide his "gas rag" for the next few mornings to make sure yours gets through.

I do not care to provide direct contact info here after frequent harassment/stalking by various Nazi pinheads.

I look forward to reading your book.

What i really want to read, though, is @michael-staley 's review. Did you send him a copy, as he is the Typhonian OHO, if i am not mistaken?


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Colour is flamboyant eh?

Yes. I like it. Most of my major tests have ae full-color format (premium ink, premium paper). This gets really expensive. So I also (usually) offer an economy b&w version, a a lower cost.

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... my Ph.D. is a real degree.

So is mine! Me, too! Are we starting a division between real PhDs and not-so-real of the same? Meanwhile, back to the Inquisition ...

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They offer, for example, day-long courses with zero admission requirements ...

I was considering studying Nuclear Physics, Quantum Mechanics, and Advanced Neurosurgery. Now I know where to go.

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I understand how big bad long-time occupants of these forums like to question everything and tear stuff down

No. Credit will be given to those who come up with something new, interesting, shocking, or amusing. Exposing false claims gets 2x credit. But anybody who presents anything is subject to the LAShTAL Reality-and-Fact Checker Borg Procedure. When I first came here, I was Inquisitioned. So is everybody else. Just tell the truth and don't get caught up in character assassination or petty defense mechanisms.

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you have a real doctoral degree from a real university in a French-speaking country, yes.

Oh, darn. My PhD has no French attached, but my OMD was from a legal University, but the teachers were mostly Chinese. Does any of this count?

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I have been here in various guises ...

Uh, oh.

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You think I just went “oh look this website has a Typhonian section”? 

No. Your Borg Data says you joined 5 years ago.

 


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Most of my major tests have ae full-color format ...

Some people don't know how to spell. This disastrous decree should read ...

Most of my major texts have a full-color format ...


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@hoodoozendiq - I apologize for misstating my Corresponding Secretary's email address above.

As Mr Lopez is a young person, he uses a fanciful spelling of his name, and the correct email address is in fact Bobol0p3z @ [the google email]; that is a zero not a O in "Lopez".


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Well-along with the good Dr. Bob, the eminent Nick Frisvold and others, I am quite pleased to have contributed to Sean Woodward's written works myself with my own Introduction to the most recent edition of his Keys to the Hoodoo Kingdom. This, along with its sequel volume, Keys to the Inner Kingdom, is a wonderful book, laced with insights and suggestions for the creative and exploratory occultist esp. those working within the Voudon-Gnostic current.

 

THE V-G Current is, as readers of Kenneth Grant will know, in harmony with the Typhonian Current (see Cults of the Shadow)-and these Paths may seem very unusual, very “weird” to those outside of them. But the strange, otherworldly and artist/poetic presentation does not de facto equal “grade-A bullshitum.”

 

Very recently, I read some words from a former student and friend of Grant who shared that Grant once told him to regard his works as fiction. I found this quite wonderful. One doesn't read Grant as if his work were expository. After a time, I came to regard the chapters in the Trilogies as “Sutras,” with all the magical properties of the same.

 

Likewise, Sean writes as an explorer, an occultist and a poet. If one cannot appreciate or understand the world from which he draws his inspiration, perhaps the literary work thereby produced may be found of merit on that ground alone. For Sean is a writer of poetry and science fiction, also (see his collection of wonderful short stories, ARCHONIX). Furthermore, he is a visual artist and this aspect of his creative self-expression is never far from his written output.

 

There is, admittedly, a lot of “junk” out there. Poorly written texts rolling the same old black magic dungball back up the hill. This is NOT what Woodward is about.

 

As for Dr. Bob's intro and the language he uses, that's Bob...poetically working with words to evoke an atmosphere in which the text may become more than an exercise in comprehension-but a vivid experience. If you object to the “purple prose,” so be it. You might prefer Hemingway to the Victorians-and that's fair enough. I, myself, will never use the word PRAXIS, upon pain of death. But then I DO sew together words in phantasmagoric sequences which some have mistaken as "stream of consciousness" when I have endeavored to be most symbolically precise.

 

I do want to acknowledge that jargon MAY- and DOES-serve as an “empty vessel” with a lot of so called “occult literature.” I could write, for example, of the "vibratory Gnostic interface between subliminal systems of sexual energy and their revelatory reflection in the reverberations of the higher astral light."

 

Is THAT “bullshitum?”

 

Well, yes. I wrote it to be such. An utterly vacuous sentence which sounds groovy to the gullible but has no import for the wise. And yet...it may be that a sentence which is equally curious and arcane DOES come together to deliver itself as a vehicle unto greater understanding.

 

In my own work and thought, I have been influenced by a number of diverse figures. One is Wittgenstein-and he was merciless in his challenging of seemingly “obvious” propositions. Forget the cryptic words above. Wittgenstein was there to tear apart “I am hot,” “The chair is red” and “There are two oranges.” And then there is Frege, whose inquiry into the meaning of the number one becomes fraught with danger for all our assumptions.  So, I do apply this rigorous and brutal approach to the literature of the occult-but there is another point where we do not attempt to put such demands upon poetry...we allow poetry to put its demands upon US.

 

And there IS that important intensity and tension between these two wherein we spread our wings and assail the limits of our thought and experience!

 

I will look forward to Ignant's review of Amenta. I am waiting on my own copy to be shipped however I do own quite the full bookshelf of the author's titles as well as numerous artworks. This is good stuff and it was written from a place of deep passion for the themes addressed. And so I hope it is duly enjoyed. Sean is not just a writer and artist who I admire. He is my friend and colleague and I have known him for many, many years now. I share this as I can attest to his character and merit as a creator in the Typhonian Tradition. I don't know if Michael Staley has read Amenta yet-but I am also a member of this august Order and can say Sean's works flow outward from its Current and Font. 

 

And this IS something Kenneth Grant encouraged and promoted (as does the Rev. Michael Bertiaux):

Make your own mythos. Cut your own way through the jungle. Let the great works of all who have gone before power up your own unique voyage into the mystery of human and cosmic life!

 

 

 

 


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Is THAT “bullshitum?”

No. I could understand it. I only had to read it three times. Then I could find no practical application, except maybe abstractly with footnotes.

There are different degrees of high language. The excessive use of multi-syllable words is the highest. Perhaps it's too high for the semi-public occultists.

I use it myself, even here - in posts. But when I do that, and add some sarcasm or purposely mis-spelled long wurd weirds, I am generally not being serious.

I have also heard that magicians will sometimes disguise their presentation in big words, flowery lingo, poetic revelations, scienfic equations, or Qabalistic equivalencies, so that common folk can't catch the drift and create mayhem.

 


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I am sad to say that I've bought it.

Namely the book in question, and, unfortunately, I must say that it was a huge disappointment.

The text, and especially the rituals, are unintelligible.

They call for so much strange & "exotic" implements I can hardly see how anyone, apart from the author, could ever perform them properly, provided, of course, (s)he saw the point of doing so because, as I've said, the stuff is inaccessible, even for a seasoned practicioner of things Ty-phonyan.

I paid 70 euros only to receive a text augmented by black and white reproductions of paintings that do possess considerable beauty but need to be seen in colour to be truly appreciated.

Why did I even buy the book?

Because the description promised so much - it still does. Anyone reading it, anyone who admires Grant's work, would almost certainly be interested in such a book.

By the way, the part on Nu Isis Lodge is rather short, its context is based on information from Grant's trilogies, the author didn't bother too much and try to expand imaginatively beyond that scaffold.

If I were careless with my money and decided to pay 150 euros, I'd have received the "talismanic" version of the book. It's only addition is a wooden medallion.

More than double the price for - a wooden talisman?

I am glad I didn't spend that sort of money on this book.

A new introduction?

It can hardly alter the fact that the entire text is a case of obscurum per obscurius.


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Could be interesting or a liminally redolent appropriation of Kenneth Grant's unique oeuvre and vocabulary...but until the official report is made by one of Lashtal's protectorate, who are already have gone to the races with this one, lol, right from the snap, kerplam and a the psychedelic Foo dog hits with a straight to the shoulder (not a cheap shot) without spilling the Genose, but with foam aflight, the bullshit PCR  has popped  on the first spin and the lurking frat boy who started sniffing weird things between the pages of obscure books has demonstrated some retort such that the bar is at a truce until the hard copy arrives...

Wait wait! (jokes aside)... some of the commotion at the front door has spilled further inside, other voices are heard, encomium and bronx cheer can be made out it one cares to read recipes that may not make beer but something is fermenting

By the way,  the back room has a big cut and paste novel in the works and is hungry to feed the growing monster....so get the hard copy to Ignant666 pronto!

 

 

 

 


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Posted by: @kidneyhawk

I will look forward to Ignant's review of Amenta.

Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

get the hard copy to Ignant666 pronto!

A .pdf would do just fine, but @hoodoozendiq will have to actually send the thing.

So far Mr. Lopez reports total radio silence at his end. One more time, my Corresponding Secretary, Mr. Bobo Lopez, can be reached at Bobol0p3z @ [the google email] with a zero not a O in "Lopez". He will pass on to me whatever contact info the author/publisher provides.


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Lzeropez is in a state of waiting!


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@diii First I would like to thank you for supporting the book and I am disappointed that it did not meet your expectations.

the author didn't bother too much and try to expand imaginatively beyond that scaffold.”

There are many references and descriptions in that first rite that you will not easily discover in Mr Grant’s trilogies - for example the cab ride to the British Museum, the Moka Bar or the mechanics of the Horus Sight (not to be confused with a certain Horus Toy of which these forums are well aware of!)

In a sense the following rites all expand beyond that scaffold concluding in The Rite of Broken Wands which requires a fully engaged magicko-imagination and generated a further chapter of gemetria analysis.

If you have specific examples I would be happy to address them here or privately via tauzendiq @ mail.com (note mail and not gmail).

I would also be happy to discuss any revisions that you consider would have improved your experience. Again feel free to contact me directly, here or via the Facebook page for the book.

Finally thank you for pointing out that the “paintings do possess considerable beauty but need to be seen in colour to be truly appreciated.”

Given this feedback from yourself and @Shiva I am in the process of replacing them with colour images. This will take a few weeks to complete but I would be happy to ship you a gratis copy once complete. As the fulfilment is managed by Amazon I would need an address to do that.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

Could be interesting or a liminally redolent appropriation of Kenneth Grant's unique oeuvre and vocabulary..

Oh, look, I see that you are a practitioner of the high lingo, as well as some of the rest of us.

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Lashtal's protectorate, who are already have gone to the races with this one, lol, right from the snap, kerplam and a the psychedelic Foo dog

Alternating with street-level talk in order to reach the common folk. Please attach a picture of the foo.

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the commotion at the front door has spilled further inside, other voices are heard

Oh, that's just the members of The Grand Tribunal talking about the case as they shuffle around, finding their seats, getting ready to form a judgment.

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Mr. Lopez reports total radio silence ...

Please attach a picture of Mr Booboo.

 


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Mr. Lopez, whose photo i attach, has now passed on Sean's message and i have been in touch with him to provide my mailing address.

 

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@hoodoozendiq Thank you, mr Woodward, for your kindness!


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Its official Mr. Lzeropez was wearing a "white hat" at a particular time...to which underneath was and perhaps still is a universe of 'white rabbits' doing 'white rabbit' things as Mr. Lzeropez's happy countenance so suggests...


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Mr. Lzeropez's happy countenance

It is true that both Corresponding Secretary Mr. Lopez, and i, his employer Dr. ignant, are delighted that New York finally fully legalized cannabis earlier this year, and are each prolific, indeed heroic, consumers thereof.

O my Son, yester Eve came the Spirit upon me that I also should eat the Grass of the Arabs, and by Virtue of the Bewitchment thereof behold that which might be appointed for the Enlightenment of mine Eyes. Now then of this may I not speak, seeing that it involveth the Mystery of the Transcending of Time, so that in One Hour of our terrestrial Measure did I gather the Harvest of an Æon, and in Ten Lives I could not declare it. [Liber Aleph vel CXI, "DE HERBO SANCTISSIMO ARABICO" (Level Press, 1974, p. 177)]


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Well then i guess then the lid was protected through the years, neath a white hat and certain smile, you have well employed those who have done their "Father" honor and on an "Eve"  of a previous day, which could be a previous aeon, I am glad that that which was probably written in New York, Liber Aleph,  that New York can now sanction by Statute.... a wider cuisine to eat...i

As regards to Mr. L0pez.....a name that itself which might even be suggestive of the having a Typhonian twinge to it, as Mr. Grant did speak of the Lo lands, and with a embedded zero in the name, but I doubt it...  no predilection for qabalahs that float as fortresses of certainty, would not be whom I would expect you to hire, and even if  for such moments.... as your pipe might bring to exhale and float in the room in swirls of imagination... that letters and numbers might be so construed, but lets wait for the book review...

Anyways I wonder if in your business with Mr.L0pez that perhaps he has some magical manuscript under that hat, and that someone has the key..."Ricky don't lose that number"...who cares!

 

 

 


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Spicy!!!!

I just want to weigh in as a nobody. I really enjoyed the first edition and have read many of Sean's books. It was frustrating that there were some pieces of unobtainium required in order to work with it but as a piece of creative occultism it is positively inspired. R.A. Plimer also has written some great stuff with some fantastic insights (at least his night of pan was good, I haven't read his other works)


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I have no "juice" as we used to say way back in the day - here on lashtal - but, I can say that I've found much value & inspiration in Sean's work. If you're into the Typhonian, Voudon Gnostic, Lovecraftian currents, Sean seems very much in tune. 


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Posted by: @grouchotrout

If you're into the Typhonian, Voudon Gnostic, Lovecraftian currents, Sean seems very much in tune. 

We have now had a few character and content witnesses who speak well of the author's works. Those who may not be interested would be those persons who are not into the traditions you mentioned (although gnostic should have a wider appeal).

This all ties in with The Monastery of the Seven Rays (a Bertiaux association), which attempts to merge seven streams of endeavor, some of which you have mentioned. Note: Thelema is one of the rays.


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Celestina Abdenago who went up Calvary and gave drink to Dismas and Gestas; seeks to be liberated.
Be-careful what you interface with; the allure may come with a price of the attainment of passing. Shadows of Lam-ia and Eldritch things may come to life in qliphothic tunnels and dream cells; where the day to day phantom experiences signals from Sirius and forms of a primal Atlantean gnosis that take shape. These men are fools; playing and toying, unprepared; they may execute their own demise. Balance and nurture, sow seeds.
A nice read.
The Author comes with much better credentials than an Oxford graduate.
“ In October 2013 Kyle Fite, Sovereign Grand Master for OTOA-LCN, appointed Sean Woodward, Tau Zendiq, as Emissary for Great Britiain & Ireland and in December 2015, as Grand Master for Great Britain & Ireland , XVI . In 2019 He became Great Britain, Ireland and Australia. In May 2021 he also became Grand Master of India and Malaysia. “
So though the book has a great bibliography you know he did more than just research.


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I was googling trying to find out what "LCN" stands for (figuring my first guess of "La Cosa Nostra" was almost certainly incorrect), and, in the course of discovering that it means "La Couleuvre Noire" ["The Black Grass-Snake"; grass snakes (Natrix natrix) live exclusively on frogs and toads, and are not found in Haiti], found this astonishing bit of prose from an anonym in a 2010 thread here, which i felt deserved to be resurrected for its sheer depth, not that it has the slightest thing to do with poor Sean's book (which i await by mail):

another unpublished M[ichael B[ertiaux] communication where he recalls once getting kidnapped in Japan by what appeared to be a bunch of 'shintoist bikers who were devoteed [sic] to Toshihira [Inoguchi; Japanese WW II Admiral killed by the US Navy in 1944] & HPL', then to be sexually abused within their sex-temple-dungeon for some two and a half days... Don't tell anyone about this

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/requests/otoa/#post-52586

I mean, gay Shintoist biker kidnapper-rapists who are into a long-dead Imperial Japanese Admiral and Howard Philips Lovecraft, who have a "sex-temple-dungeon" where they can gangbang foreign tourists for "some two and a half days"?

This seems to me to be entirely credible, and this entirely credible story is helpful to me in understanding Michael Bertiaux' work.


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Posted by: @ignant666

 

another unpublished M[ichael B[ertiaux] communication where he recalls once getting kidnapped in Japan by what appeared to be a bunch of 'shintoist bikers who were devoteed [sic] to Toshihira [Inoguchi; Japanese WW II Admiral killed by the US Navy in 1944] 

I'm surprised they weren't devoted to Yukio Mishima, he's beloved among many of the weirder Shintoists.   A quick search doesn't turn up anything cultish about Toshihira Inoguchi.

 

& HPL', then to be sexually abused within their sex-temple-dungeon for some two and a half days... Don't tell anyone about this

Wow.  😳 

 

This seems to me to be entirely credible, and this entirely credible story is helpful to me in understanding Michael Bertiaux' work.

I have an old copy of the Magickal Childe edition of the Voudon Gnostic Workbook. The first few chapters, are fairly lucid, and then the specialized jargon begins to get thicker and thicker. That said, it's an interesting read, but the early parts have more practical application.


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Posted by: @katrice

the Magickal Childe edition of the Voudon Gnostic Workbook

Not at all surprised that the late Herman Slater, proprietor of NYC's late Magickal Childe, would be pals with a guy who might be kidnapped by gay "shintoist bikers who were devoteed [sic] to Toshihira & HPL". Or fantasize about this.

Herman was an older gentleman who was "devoteed" to what used to be known as "rough trade" in addition to his occult and business activities.

As a tall, slim, long-haired, androgynous, teenage lad when i first met him in around '75 in Brooklyn at the earlier The Warlock Shoppe, and later in Manhattan, as a burly leather-clad punk/skinhead at Magickal Childe in the '80s-'90s, i could always count on attentive service if Herman was in the shop. And invitations to parties, orgies, and ceremonies (that i never followed up on).

Just as any reasonably hot teenage-mid-20s female could expect equally (or more) attentive service if Jim or Bill were working. And similar invitations.


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I was just this evening pawing through my copy of Michael Bertaiux's Vudu Cartography, searching for a passage I wanted to include in the sequel volume to my own Hoodoo Pilot.

 

Doing so, I was struck by how lovely and wonderful a book this was.

 

I was at the book launch in Chicago in 2010 where Michael signed my copy of this great work (along with many others).

 

I will say that all the “controversy” around Michael is much amusing ado about nothing. I first encountered his work via Kenneth Grant. My internet searches led me to the disparaging accounts of one “G.M. Kelly.” If one has the interest, Kidneyhawk jumped onto this site and asked what the deal was with this guy? And then, years later, I was appointed as SGM of the OTOA-LCN.

 

Sean Woodward is the duly appointed Emissary and Grand Master of OTOA-LCN to the United Kingdom and Ireland. But this will mean little to those outside of these Orders.

 

I participate here as a Thelemite and a LASHTALIAN. I don't need to wave about my “credentials” or ask for any clout. This is not my interest nor do I post here with any other motive than engagement with the discussion at hand.

 

Posted by: @katrice

I have an old copy of the Magickal Childe edition of the Voudon Gnostic Workbook. The first few chapters, are fairly lucid, and then the specialized jargon begins to get thicker and thicker. That said, it's an interesting read, but the early parts have more practical application.

Perhaps if one wants a step by step how to. The whole book is filled with vision and insight. But then there is all that comes after. But if one doesn't grok the VGW, I don't know that the Cagliostro series is going to be any more helpful. 

Either way, Sean's work follows this visionary path. Some have complained that his rites ask for "unobtainables."  

All is possible with the imagination.

In fact, I recall a ritual Nema wrote in which the Priest and Priestess are both pierced through the heart with a spear at their sexual climax. Better get the dress rehearsal down pat, eh? 

I spoke with someone who knew knew Kenneth Grant about this "rite." He told me that Kenneth had remarked: "What a wonderful exercise of the Imagination!" 

Occultism cannot be Literalism-else it wouldn't be...Occultism!

 


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G.M. Kelly. 

I recognize that name but have never interacted with him.

The whole book is filled with vision and insight

I could compare it with Grant's work, immediate practical application of the work as a whole is limited but the effects of reading show the greater value. I wasn't necessarily trying to be disparaging, just stating that it gets more complicated as it goes. When you finally get used to terms like "Zothyrian Cladokinesis" it gets easier to parse.   It was like learning a new world, in a way. Altering consciousness and affecting the subconscious.  I have respect for Bertiaux's work. 

 

In fact, I recall a ritual Nema wrote in which the Priest and Priestess are both pierced through the heart with a spear at their sexual climax. Better get the dress rehearsal down pat, eh? 

She wrote some interesting stuff.  The Way of the Dragonfly includes this:

"With the assistance of his chela and the Healer, the celebrant severs
his left foot and offers it to the Firemaster to be prepared. The
celebrant then consumes his roasted appendage, sharing a portion of it
with the chela.

The bones are carefully cleaned and varnished and are used to begin
the construction of a Shivalingam. The ritual is continued for the next
eleven Full Moons, with the severings at ankles, knees, hips, wrists,
elbows and shoulders."

"What a wonderful exercise of the Imagination!" 

Which is exactly what her Feast of the Hive is. 


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Posted by: @katrice

The bones are carefully cleaned and varnished and are used to begin
the construction of a Shivalingam. The ritual is continued for the next
eleven Full Moons, with the severings at ankles, knees, hips, wrists,
elbows and shoulders."

"What a wonderful exercise of the Imagination!" 

Which is exactly what her Feast of the Hive is. 

You got it!

I will be interested in the "objection" to Woodward's Amenta and its ritual requirements-and I suspect these may be along the same lines as the "Feast of the Hive."


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Posted by: @kidneyhawk

You got it!

I will be interested in the "objection" to Woodward's Amenta and its ritual requirements-and I suspect these may be along the same lines as the "Feast of the Hive."

Thank you. 

I will say that Feast of the Hive makes for some interesting imagery to explore.

Posted by: @ignant666

Not at all surprised that the late Herman Slater, proprietor of NYC's late Magickal Childe,  

 

Magickal Childe is also who published my copy of PB Randolph's Sexual Magic. The store sounds like it was a very interesting place to visit.  

While I do appreciate the link, I know what "rough trade" means. 😉 

 


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Magickal Childe is also who published my copy of PB Randolph's Sexual Magic.

As bright yellow as they come. Or came. I mean, you know what I mean. 


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As bright yellow as they come. Or came. I mean, you know what I mean. 

I know exactly what you mean. 😆 

 

But, seriously, the cover is why it's the one book that I can always find on my bookshelves. 

That book and Robert North's The New Flesh Palladium are what got me in to learning about Maria de Naglowska. 


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But, seriously, the cover is why it's the one book that I can always find on my bookshelves. 

The only book I'll never lose. 


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I don't think anyone can get a doctoral degree in "Classics, Classics, Philosophy and Religious Studies and Metaphysics and Philosophy of Mind" anywhere, let alone Oxford (we do mean the one in the UK, right?);

Reminds me of that Beverly Hillbillies  episode when Mr Drysdale (or similar) asked Jethro which school he attended and he innocently answered, "Why Ah went to Oxford!!"  ' Oxford' being some ultra obscure tin-shack in the Alabama hills (or wherever) where they were no doubt taught snake-charming, rabbit-skinning and how to count from 1 to 10.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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@david-dom-lemieux 

 

Welcome back, Dom! You were missed!


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... where they were no doubt taught snake-charming, rabbit-skinning and how to count from 1 to 10.

Don't forget the Moonshine Liquid Corn Production course.


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Posted by: @david-dom-lemieux

Oxford' being some ultra obscure tin-shack in the Alabama hills (or wherever) where they were no doubt taught snake-charming, rabbit-skinning and how to count from 1 to 10.

The Beverly Hillbillies are from the Ozarks, which is a mountain range on the Missouri/Arkansas border, most likely from the Missouri side from the frequent references to Bug Tussle, Mo. on the show. Bug Tussle no longer exists, but was near Branson, Mo., the country music/redneck entertainment theme-park. There are still towns called Bug Tussle in four US states, but those are the wrong ones.

Oxford, where Jethro went to high school, is Oxford, Arkansas, pop. 670.

There is no known oil reserve in these places but i guess the Clampetts just got lucky. Glad to know my countless childhood hours glued to the TV were not wasted.


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