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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 9:38 pm  

Has anyone been able to obtain any work by AC and a few other such authors in a public library?

I have been battling my counties restriction on carrying his / their works in the library. My finances have precluded my access to certain works which I'm desperate to get a hold of. Every time I ask to order his / their work in the library I get the brush off and handed to some other County official.

This is in the Bay Area of the US, about as liberal as this country gets and the library is full of every other kind of "Religious / Esoteric Literature".
The only "occult" type book they had was Dion Fortune's What is Occultism from 1929.

I finally have the lady in charge of the Counties Libraries name and before I send off my brilliantly worded letter I wanted to check with everyone else to see if anyone else has ever seen his work in a library?

I'm putting together a writing project about this as this whole run around has really got me going. AC is going to be everywhere by the end of the year with all these films coming out and I find it odd I can't get a straight answer from anyone?

Anyone have any thoughts?


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Azidonis
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17/08/2007 9:49 pm  

93,

The only thought I have is that most, if not all, of his published works can be readily found on the Internet in some form.

As for paper copies, I wouldn't know. I order what I need or find them somehow. Where libraries are concerned, I gave up on them in my youth. It takes too long to find what you want and then it might not even be what you need. Selections are limited by the scope of those stocking the shelves, and they are more "pragmatic" than the simple supply and demand of the general book market.

Best of luck in your efforts.

93 93/93


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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 9:56 pm  

You used to be able to borrow a lot of them from from public libraries in the U.K. But so many of them were stolen that you can only borrow them from large county liberaries now. Shame.
Best Wishes Robert.


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frater_cug
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17/08/2007 9:58 pm  

According to their website you local library has several Crowley related books.

You might also want to ask for an interlibrary loan, you can get pretty much anything thing that way.

PS, I did a search for Magick and came across several more Crowley Books MITP, Magick without tears, etc..


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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 10:04 pm  

Wrong County. Their appears to be no inter communication ability between the counties and If I was in San Fransisco it would have been easy. I'm an hour away from there but youv'e given me an idea I hadn't considered in driving up there to get them!

Back to my Fawlty Tower's DVD's that they DO carry. I miss the UK right now ans wish you all over there a happy Friday night at your local!


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frater_cug
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17/08/2007 10:11 pm  
"miles_vera" wrote:
Wrong County. Their appears to be no inter communication ability between the counties and If I was in San Fransisco it would have been easy.

That's kinda strange, I thought most libraries had the interlibrary loan program.

If it helps my local Library has several books by Duquette, Sutin, etc.. but only one by Crowley (Diary of a drug fiend) and Indiana is not as liberal as the bay area to say the least!


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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 10:21 pm  

In green, gay, witchy Brighton there are two Crowley titles held for reference only in the history centre in the museum, and two more available for loan on request but kept in the store of the main city library.


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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 10:27 pm  

Like I said I'm really missing the UK right now...Cheers!


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 Anonymous
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17/08/2007 10:46 pm  

In my hometown, just outside Leeds, all copies of Aleister Crowley's works had been stolen. They did still have a couple of biographies. I was amused that one had bothered to steal Amado's books, though!


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 Anonymous
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18/08/2007 8:22 pm  

Fortunately I own copies of most of Crowleys and Spare's books. All my local library has to offer is Blavatsky and I never gave much credance to the whole "Hidden Master" idea not to mention the invisible root races before mankind. I'll stick with Darwin who at least has had his ideas proven .
Good luck to you all in your searches.
Best Wishes Robert.


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 Anonymous
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18/08/2007 9:19 pm  

I just checked and the libraries in my area have only two books from Crowley. One is Confessions and the other Crowley's Tao Te Ching. They've placed his Tao Te Ching in the same place with Eastern religious writings. I think the translation may confuse some random people looking for a typical Tao Te Ching..


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the_real_simon_iff
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18/08/2007 11:22 pm  

93!

Here in Germany the interlibrary loan program works pretty fine. Check out the university libraries, they usually have great stuff. I found some rare first editions and nearly all other works by Crowley. Sometimes you are not allowed to take them home, but in this case you can make copies or read the book at the library. I was surprised that I could take for example Germer's MWT home, or How To Make Your Own McOTO, or German AC translations from 1915 and much more. Also most libraries provide photocopies of rare stuff. And it is always nice to check out Freemason libraries. So I love libraries!

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xalhad
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19/08/2007 4:55 am  

If you are in the Bay Area I would suggest you give a call to "Ancient Ways" on Telegraph Ave, in Oakland. Its a pretty neat store if you haven't been there yet.
The owner Glen (Glen is a woman, by the way) Has mentioned setting up a library just for such difficulties as yours. Also many of the local OTO'ers and other Crowley fans make their way through there. I am sure you could find folks that will be glad to help you find what you're looking for there.


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 Anonymous
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19/08/2007 10:36 pm  

If your finances are restricted, then why not settle for using online versions in the meantime and fill in your library as you go. You can build your library by starting with the smaller but important stuff: Book of Law, Book of Lies, Little Essays Towards Truth, Magick Without Tears. These are relatively inexpensive. Also sourcing second hand books online is useful. Many books are late reprints so should not be selling for high amounts. And when all else fails, go back to referencing online.

Enjoy your journey :>


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 Anonymous
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20/08/2007 10:12 am  

http://pac.lfpl.org/polaris/Search/searchresults.aspx?ctx=1.1033.0.0.4&type=Keyword&term=crowley%2c+aleister&by=AU&sort=MP&limit=TOM%3d*&query=&page=0 shows only 5 titles available here in Louisville, Ky all recent editions. Oddly though both biographies show 0 of 0 available.


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 Anonymous
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20/08/2007 3:43 pm  
"miles_vera" wrote:
Has anyone been able to obtain any work by AC and a few other such authors in a public library?

I have been battling my counties restriction on carrying his / their works in the library.

Good luck with that, If anywhere would have that kind of thing, it would probably be in California, or Texas. but where I live "midwest US" my large city library has a few Crowley in which you may not check out. Also RAW books you can't check out, but they have a few, And forget Regardie, they don't carry those at all. Other than your basic Llewellen fluff, you can't really get anything with substance here. I learned very quickly that libraries don't like to carry too much controversial stuff as they pose a theft risk. I think most Thelemites will spend a small fortune in the long run on these texts. . . Q


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 Anonymous
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20/08/2007 4:21 pm  

Here in Ohio, surprisingly, I"ve had no trouble obtaining his works from inter library loan, but none on shelves , orr tarot either, they disappear.


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 Anonymous
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21/08/2007 12:11 am  

While I haven't used the public library in years, it was actually where I first discovered Western Hermeticism by discovering books by Israel Regardie there. This was Fort Wayne, IN... city of Churches and right in the damn Bible belt.


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kidneyhawk
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21/08/2007 3:09 am  

Kuniggety-

LOL! I was attending a Christian College when I became interested in Aleister Crowley...and through the interlibrary loan system, got a hold of a small stack, which changed me forevermore!

MTP was the first. I had no idea what a "Qabalah" was! But for all I couldn't make heads or tails of, I was hooked...

...and quite ironic, I also was able to check out White Stains, hardback (also from a Christian college! 😯 ).

I followed bibliographies and checked out stacks of everything I could find on magick.

After graduating, I was done "renting" and had to HAVE...

But if one doesn't have access to the web (or a printer), the library is not at all a bad place to hang.

Oh, Lutz is also quite correct. Masonic Temples are often sitting on MOUNDS of brilliant stuff which, in my experience, has been long overdue for a good dusting!

93,

Kyle


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ianrons
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31/08/2007 3:51 am  

For UK residents, here is a link to Cecile Dubuis' M.A. dissertation on Libraries and the Occult. It seems there are more Crowley books being sent to the British Library these days, but there are other sources too.


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