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28/09/2010 2:21 pm  

There's a great song about the black pilgrimage on The Triple Tree's MR James inspired "Ghosts" album which can be heard on this page:

http://www.klicktrack.com/coldspring/releases/the-triple-tree/ghosts/1 1"> http://www.klicktrack.com/coldspring/releases/the-triple-tree/ghosts/11

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01/10/2010 8:22 am  

There's a great song about the black pilgrimage on The Triple Tree's MR James inspired "Ghosts" album which can be heard on this page:

http://www.klicktrack.com/coldspring/releases/the-triple-tree/ghosts/11

I did give a listen, but they seem to be more interested in just quoting the stories, as opposed to digging deeper into the essence of the narrative. Still interesting though, thanks.


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01/10/2010 9:03 am  

Got mine yesterday. Very impressed with the collection and the value for money.


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01/10/2010 6:31 pm  

I was FINALLY able to order mine because the first time amazon.com finally has them for sale.
Well, 2 of them.
I bought what might be the only one for a decent price, 8 dollars total including shipping from UK.
The only other one was a hundred and something.
This might be a collectors item soon.
which would be weird, but im glad to get it when it comes, it will be a great read i know.


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01/10/2010 8:57 pm  

The only other one was a hundred and something.

for 'The drug'?


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02/10/2010 12:13 am  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:

For those who might not know, 'Count Magnus' by MR James influenced Jack Parsons the rocket scientist.

Michael thanks for this link - the MR James / Parsons thread is very interesting and almost could do with its own topic. I hadn't read his work before, now I will.

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02/10/2010 2:43 am  

yes for 'the drug and other stories' isnt that insane?
i think someone is being too optimistic...
see here http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1840226382/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1285217878&sr=8-1&condition=new


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02/10/2010 1:29 pm  

Michael thanks for this link - the MR James / Parsons thread is very interesting and almost could do with its own topic. I hadn't read his work before, now I will.

The concept is something that I find absolutely intriguing, especially in that Chorazin actually exists, and is made of Basalt as noted by Jack Parsons, and can be found on google. The old city is to the east of the current settlement - it's possible in the satellite images to see the path of the stream which would have provided the necessary utility for the town.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=chorazin&sll=46.980252,18.413086&sspn=13.075968,26.235352&ie=UTF8&hq=chorazin&hnear=&ll=32.911937,35.563989&spn=0.003927,0.006405&t=h&z=17


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04/10/2010 2:59 pm  

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Just got the answer from TheBookdepository:

"The publication date of the book was 15 September, and we have been fulfilling orders since that date.

The Book Depository do not buy from us direct, so they will probably be obtaining their stock from one of the big UK wholesalers. It may take a couple of weeks for the books to work their way down the supply chain, but I would not expect you to have to wait very much longer.

Kind regards,

Derek Wright"

Love is the law, love under will.

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04/10/2010 7:06 pm  

I received my copy thanks to the generosity of a prominent member of this site.

Initial impressions? A wonderful volume, just right for reading on the train.

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04/10/2010 7:19 pm  

I received my copy thanks to the generosity of a prominent member of this site.

Initial impressions? A wonderful volume, just right for reading on the train.

Did the Amazon one not turn up then?


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04/10/2010 7:20 pm  
"Frater_HPK" wrote:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Just got the answer from TheBookdepository:

"The publication date of the book was 15 September, and we have been fulfilling orders since that date.

The Book Depository do not buy from us direct, so they will probably be obtaining their stock from one of the big UK wholesalers. It may take a couple of weeks for the books to work their way down the supply chain, but I would not expect you to have to wait very much longer.

Kind regards,

Derek Wright"

Love is the law, love under will.

B.

My mistake, not from TheBookDepository, but from Wordsworth-Editions ...


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04/10/2010 7:37 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
Did the Amazon one not turn up then?

It did … eventually!

Er, anyone want to buy a copy? Only 20 quid. 😉

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04/10/2010 7:44 pm  

lol 20 quid.
I am expecting my copy from amazon.com sold by PS books which is Post Script books of London to arrive in a week or so. It is very nice of them to send them on amazon.com to US customers for the price of domestic shipping.
It will be nice to especially have a copy of Atlantis in real book form , I hear that work has a lot of esoteric secrets.
Especially in regards to ZRO
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I found the story the Ghouls very interesting. I guess it was more of a play. I read it in Equinox. It is cutely done. Especially Crowley's characterisation of himself as a country gentleman. ha! 😀 And I like the vengeance at the end. I see its not listed in Contents but still as some of his fiction I enjoyed it.

Regarding "His Secret Sin" based on Crowley's own comments on the work in his Hag I am very excited to read it. It seemed to be one of his favourites.


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04/10/2010 11:32 pm  

93

Re: The Drug and Other Stories
I ordered mine from Book Suppository - oops, I mean The Book Depository June 28, 2010ev and other than charging my credit card I haven't heard a word from them. I sent a couple of gentle follow-up emails to the customer neglect department and still no response OR book ten weeks later...

Luckily, there have been several excellent books made available in the past few months. And I don't read all that quick, anyhow.

93 93/93

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05/10/2010 12:48 am  

I can't wait until members here read the endnotes on the last page of the book!

Now, that really was a surprise!

😉

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05/10/2010 1:25 am  

What? p595 "in press, 2010"?
On p X111 it only says "in preparation".
Equinox Vol IV no. 3. was described as 'in press'
Whoever bought the 1928 diary at auction got a proof copy of diaries 1926-47
I think whoever puts these things in the press must want them to be very, very, very flat.

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05/10/2010 7:10 am  

Please let us know who are waiting for our copies - whats in the endnotes?

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05/10/2010 7:31 am  
"einDoppelganger" wrote:
Please let us know who are waiting for our copies - whats in the endnotes?

93!

Paul is probably referring to this announcement on page 595 (the colouring is mine):

This IS a surprise!

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05/10/2010 7:32 am  

May be the "Endgame" . . .


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05/10/2010 11:13 am  

Actually, I was referring to the last page in the book. HB reveals that AC and Oscar Eckenstein were lovers, which was a surprise to me and which I don't recall reading elsewhere.

You're right, though: the announcement that Confessions is "in press" is very exciting.

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05/10/2010 11:45 am  

Ah OK I wa confused.. I thought the fact the Confessions was coming was announced, it is great to see it is now in press though - thanks Lutz!! I wonder when we will se pre-orders for the set...

As for the Eckenstein fact - that is interesting. I didn't get that sense from Perdurabo but I haven't finished that one yet. Thanks Paul.


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05/10/2010 12:42 pm  

93!

Thanks, Paul! That is indeed a surprise (The Confessions are just surprisingly near publishing date). Maybe more on this will come with Collected Diaries. By the way, does anybody here know if Crowley and Eckenstein ever had legal quarrels? When looking for Eckenstein in London Papers, there are always coming up a few instances of Crowley vs. Eckenstein in January 1912. Just coincidental namesakes? Any info would be cool...

Love=Law
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P.S. HB's notes are wonderful as usual. Has anybody ever heard of The Banyan Tree before?


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07/10/2010 6:28 pm  

I notice a few folk are searching for the Simon Iff stories. 'Simon Iff, The Unpublished Stories' was published by Lulu at £14.95, plus £4.75 p & p (paperback) (The self-publishing site, not the pop-star!!). This includes all the Simon Iff Stories not included in The Scrutinies of Simon Iff, (Teitan). The latter is still available at a reasonable price if you shop around on the second hand market.

Simon Iff, The Unpublished Stories is 580 pages long, and contains all the Simon Iff in America, Simon Iff Abroad, and Simon Iff Psychoanalyst stories, some 17 stories in all. The book is purely the text of those stories, and there are no additional notes or commentaries. As far as I know the Lulu collection is still available. It is a bit on the pricey side for a paperback, but if you want a hardcopy of the 'unpublished stories' it is comparatively cheap for Crowley material - admittedly not the bumper bargain of 'The Drug and Other Stories'. It is of a size that will readily pack in the old suitcase or rucksack if you fancy a holiday read. For myself, I never seem to get an opportunity to read the book I pack to take on holiday – there are always too many other things to do, and these days the old mobile is so much lighter to carry around!!

I am starting to give up on my order from The Book Depository for 'The Drug & Other Stories', and my Amazon Pre-Publication Order made months ago has not yet arrived. I have, however, obtained copies from PSS Books (Sandpiper the guys who specialise in remainder items), but had to pay £2.75 postage. Possibly the other books ordered from Amazon and the Book Depository will eventually turn up. (notice PSS are advertising The Drug on Amazon US as well, so, as my copies came by return of post from PSS, I hope everyone who is chasing The Drug can now obtain a copy at a fair price. At the moment it seems as if it there is a bit of luck as to whether you get your copy from Amazon or not. There are clearly some supply difficulties, but some supplies are coming through, and, if you are patient, I am certain your orders will eventually be fulfilled. The Book Depository is a puzzle because I have always found them to be very reliable in the past. As the book is so cheap, it might well be worthwhile hedging your bets if your long-standing order is showing no signs of arriving, and ordering a second copy from some other source. At the end of the day it is gambling a fiver or so, (if postage is taken into account) to ensure you have a copy, against being patient and seeing what happens, with the possibility of disappointment. I think it is likely that the book will become much easier to obtain in the next few weeks, but unless someone has some firm inside knowledge of what is going on any comments must be pure supposition. Good luck if you are still awaiting your copy.

The Drug is typical of a lot of Crowley material, but I too was pleasantly surprised to discover that there are some cracking good yarns, mixed in with a certain amount of poor material. That is, perhaps, a matter of opinion.

Over half the stories have previously been published, (some in several publications!) but the book really is a bargain with so much genuinely unpublished (to the best of my knowledge) material in one book at such a low price.

I would add my two-penneth to the plea for more publications like this, especially making material which is difficult to obtain more easily accessible at bargain basement prices. Ok The Drug is not a book to treasure, or feel it is an enhancement to one’s bookshelves as a prestige ‘piece of furniture’, but it contains the information, and it is a good read. So, a book of Crowley’s poetry and a book of his unpublished notes for plays and film scenarios would not go amiss at these prices. In fact at those prices a book of any of Crowley’s unpublished material would be most welcoming received.

I too, noticed the comment about the Diaries and The Seven Vol edition of the Confessions being ‘in press.’ Also the comments concerning the Golden Rose, which has been on the go for longer than I can remember. How many years has Vol. 4.3 of the Equinox been in press? Just hope my eyesight is still OK when these volumes are eventually published because I anticipate there will be a lot of reading in them!!

Thanks for the tips concerning the Collected Ghost Stories by M R James. I now have that to peruse, which is timely as I have just come to the end of the last page of The Drug. I ordered CGS from The Book Depository, and it came by return of post! So, credit where credit is due. (I just wish they would tell their customers exactly what the problem with their supplier for the Drug is, and when it is likely to be sorted out.) At £2.80 post free for CGS you cannot go wrong, and even if some of the material is not for me, it has to be worth that price for the items that I have enjoyed reading. One thing for sure it beats the rubbish on the box hands down!!

Apologies for writing a ‘book’ I got a bit carried away with my posting!

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07/10/2010 7:28 pm  

I too, noticed the comment about the Diaries and The Seven Vol edition of the Confessions being ‘in press.’ Also the comments concerning the Golden Rose, which has been on the go for longer than I can remember. How many years has Vol. 4.3 of the Equinox been in press? Just hope my eyesight is still OK when these volumes are eventually published because I anticipate there will be a lot of reading in them!!

Time isn't actually on the side of the OTO, as the copyrights will expire in 2017 i.e. seventy years after the death of the author.

Would anyone care to put in an advance order for my 25 volume 'Everything to do with Big Al' set, which will have everything.... all published, all unpublished and everything drawn/painted by him. 😉


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07/10/2010 7:45 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
Would anyone care to put in an advance order for my 25 volume 'Everything to do with Big Al' set, which will have everything.... all published, all unpublished and everything drawn/painted by him.)

Put me down for a copy!

Seriously, though, I'd welcome a definitive 'Collected Poems' - not too fussed about the binding or price, though editorial apparatus as good as that provided consistently by HB would be very welcome.

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08/10/2010 4:46 pm  

I just a letter from Amazon U.S.A. saying that my pre-0rder of this book was still unavailable. Son of a bitch!


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christibrany
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08/10/2010 6:05 pm  

I am more excited about the diaries than the confessions.
For one thing that is a lot of volumes and though I love the man the way he writes about the details of his life that he cares about (of course he would) that are less interesting than those to an outsider like maybe magical or occult things thinks maybe the abridged confessions wont be much different in terms of knowledge and entertainment.
but that's just a wild guess. and also an attempt at justification to not buy it because thats a lot of money and volumes to read and im skeeeered 🙂 (for my pocketbook)


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08/10/2010 9:40 pm  

I just a letter from Amazon U.S.A. saying that my pre-0rder of this book was still unavailable. Son of a bitch!

That's a shame. As there are loads of copies for sale in Lovejoy's on Charing Cross Road, in London.

If anyone in London needs a copy, then Lovejoy's in the place.


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08/10/2010 10:57 pm  

Mine copy arrived, after some delay, a few days ago through Canadian Amazon (amazon.ca).


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09/10/2010 8:58 pm  

I received notification from the book depository that they now have copies and will be dispatching over the next few days.


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13/10/2010 3:36 pm  

Notice PSS Books on Amazon USA are advertising Drug & Other Stories. Their UK branch has always been reliable, but you will have to add postage to your order (check details on Amazon.com). Amazon UK are now coming through with The Drug, and my copy from that source arrived yesterday. Hoping you will manage to get yours OK. So, trust that is helpful if you are still stuck. I think you will be able to place an order on Amazon.UK from the USA, but the horrific postal charges may make it unviable. All depends on how much difficulty you are having in getting the book.

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17/10/2010 7:52 am  

93, All

I ordered this book last week, I think October seventh and received it today. I am pleased with it's content, and grateful for knowing about it through this site. It has given me a more approachable thought-form to the man Crowley was, more personable and regular sort, versus the stalwart Magus-Rex of his age.I am a little shocked at the pulp quality of what I consider to be such an enlightening volume of some of his more intimate non instructional work. His attitudes in the stories give insight to his nature and his capacity for compassion, the human dilemma of love.
Am I alone in thinking a leather bound acid free paper edition, would secure great sales. This is just such refreshing new material to me, I would like a sturdier more enduring copy to pass down. Thanks again to everyone who brought this to my eye.

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17/10/2010 2:11 pm  

Am I alone in thinking a leather bound acid free paper edition, would secure great sales.

I'd buy one.


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18/10/2010 6:29 pm  

I think there is a niche for both markets. I would love a good quality hardbound copy of the drug - providing I can afford it. (Put me down for one please!!) However, I really do appreciate having the material made available at a bargain price. My priority is to enjoy (and learn from) the content of a book. The joys of owning a beautiful book are of secondary importance. Such volumes are often limited editions which rapidly go out of print. Fantastic if you were one of the lucky ones who bought it, but not so good if you missed out!! Another point to make is, when you get a cheap book like The Drug, you can afford one for the shelf, and one to stick in your briefcase, rucksack, etc., to enjoy and not worry if it gets a bit battered. My beautifully bound limited edition books are a real pleasure to read and I enjoy them just simply as fantastic books, but they do not leave the house - and are kept well away from sticky fingers and coffee cups!!! So, there are two sides to the story. My plea is to prioritise making more material available at prices we can ALL afford, then go for the collector's editions. Muggins here will buy both, so long as the old bank manager does not complain!!!!

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18/10/2010 11:30 pm  
"simhanada" wrote:
I received notification from the book depository that they now have copies and will be dispatching over the next few days.

93
I ordered mine sixteen weeks ago today (June28) and still nothing from The Book Depository...
93 93/93

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19/10/2010 1:34 am  

93,

I agree Goldcrow, I am glad is was so affordable. I just like hardbound copies of books that are important to me. The binding does not make it a better book, just more ascetically pleasing and durable.

93 93/93


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22/10/2010 1:40 am  
"chuck" wrote:
"simhanada" wrote:
I received notification from the book depository that they now have copies and will be dispatching over the next few days.

93
I ordered mine sixteen weeks ago today (June28) and still nothing from The Book Depository...
93 93/93

Chuck

93
At last, after every man, woman and child in the world finished reading theirs, one of the two copies I ordered arrived. Now I withdraw into silence again to read...
93 93/93

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22/10/2010 5:36 am  

dont worry chuck i still havent got mine. but i also didnt order it until i knew it was released and in stock . so im not too miffed,
just a little amused that preorders didnt help much. but more of a sympathetic amusement. mines getting sent from UK since apparently the other countries in the world arent civilised enough to import wordsworths new books . i guess we need more Pax Britannia ..hyuck hyuck..


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22/10/2010 11:27 am  

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I got my copy from bookdepository.

Love is the law, love under will.

B.


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22/10/2010 3:18 pm  
"Frater_HPK" wrote:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

I got my copy from bookdepository.

Love is the law, love under will.

B.

Same here, a couple of days ago.
Will start as soon as I finish reading my current book.


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26/10/2010 7:16 pm  

Personally I find most of the longer tales patchy upon first reading yet the majority of the shorter are entertaining and pretty neatly constructed glimpses of the 'weird' with strong satirical overtones recognizable as A.C.

The Escape
The Bald Man
Dedit
Lieutenant Finns Promotion
His Secret Sin
The Vixen

These are just a few of the tales i think are really excellent.

I guess it is, as it should be, correct to say, that within these tales one finds clear examples of an admirable heroism and yet also the twisted mechanics of humanity and its relationships to/with each other which it was part of his 'duty' to expose.
Most of these issues are however in one way or another still relevant today ie the philosophical outlook 'proposed' is in no way embalmed and over. The problems then (when the pieces were written) are it seems, still the problems today. Ha but you/i knew that anyway.

Just my thoughts.


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30/10/2010 4:44 pm  

Unfortunate news from Amazon regarding their inability to fill my order. I pre-ordered this book the very same day of its announcement and am now quite discouraged that such an offer can be made and not honored. So much for filling orders in any kind of sequence to which they were placed!
Here follows the dreaded note I received regarding the cancellation of my order, and is confirmation of Amazon's inept business practices regarding their customer orders:

Hello from Amazon(dot)com:
We're unable to fulfill your order for the items listed below because they aren't available from the supplier any longer. As a result, we cancelled them from your order and your credit card wasn't charged.


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31/10/2010 2:37 pm  

a new order submitted only moments ago through this sites friendly Amazon UK Bookstore link has been confirmed! (thanks alysa!)
all is aright in the universe!


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08/11/2010 8:55 pm  

my copy finally came today! hooray hooray calloo callay!
I must recommend Post Script Books as the shop to buy it from if you haven't already. They are on amazon.com
They even sent me two because they were concerned the copy hadn't reached me by now . So of course the world being the strange place it is, both the original copy and the free replacement copy arrived at exactly the same time. Go figure.
Now i have to figure out how to send it back -_-
Now to reading! Good thing its my day off. Time away from reading my syllabus works and also from writing makes me feel guilty but I must learn better time management. Hows that for using LAShTAL as a personal sounding board newneuberg? 🙂


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10/11/2010 2:00 am  

Got my copy today... I second Chris's recommendation for psbooks.

It looks great! What an excellent idea for a collection!!


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10/11/2010 3:54 am  

if anyone here needs a copy of the book the company doesnt want their extra copy back. so i will donate it to the next person who asks.
just PM me
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10/11/2010 10:34 am  

You should give it to a charity shop, or leave it on a bus to be picked up by an unsuspecting traveller. Let it go viral, man. 😈


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10/11/2010 11:00 am  

Yeah, I also think that you should give it to a charity shop or to a friend who might just have started with showing some interest in Aleister Crowley, Thelema, or the like, I give what I have double to a friend, who shows some interest.


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10/11/2010 12:46 pm  

Mine has arrived, and it's quite nice for the price!


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