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 Anonymous
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Can you help a fellow LAShTAL member?

Rather than bumping up my previous thread which was read dozens of times with no reply, I will try once more before putting the matter to rest on this site.

I was wondering if anyone has a copy of 'The Law is for All' that isn't the 1996 New Falcon edition? The reason I ask is that I am really interested in the commentary to Chapter 1, verse 37 of 'The Book of the Law'. In the edition I have the following is missing:

"But I feel bound to observe that they must be studied merely as classics, just as a musician studies Bach and others. He cannot compose by copying or combining their works; they serve him only as indications of the art of expression. He must master the technique, theory and practice, of music, till the general principles are absorbed, and he has command of the language, to use it to express his Will".

I have found this in online versions of 'The Law is for All' but it is not in my book version.

There are many editions of this book available and I would like to purchase one that has the above quote in it but I don't want to spend my hard earned cash without knowing which version includes it.

All it would take is for you is to look at your copy and the relevant verse to see if the above is included. I can then look for it online to purchase and will be a happy man!

I have seen different copies available at Abe Books including a Llewellyn Publications 1975 edition and a Falcon Press 1988 edition.

Ultimately I would like to purchase a hardcover edition of this book but a paperback will suffice as long as it has the above quote in it.

I would be most grateful if anyone could take a few seconds of their time to do this.

Magmus


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OKontrair
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It is in Magical and Philosophical Commentaries by Symonds and Grant 1974 but not in either Law is For All 1975 Regardie or 1975 Motta Commmentaries of AL

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 Anonymous
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i only have the 'magical & philosophical commentaries' version to hand - it includes the paragraph you quote.


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lashtal
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Just a reminder that AC's commentaries were comprehensive - voluminous, even - and the closest to a full edition has been 'Magical & Philosophical Commentaries', though even that was substantially - and openly - expurgated by Symonds and Grant. It remains the 'best' edition.

'The Law Is For All' is a different matter: it was a deliberately edited - and substantially 'expurgated' - volume intended for a general audience.

Buy a copy of the first or wait for the OTO's planned edition.

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 Anonymous
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Thank you so much for your speedy responses Paul, OKontrair and davyp93.

I went and took a shower, came back and voila!

I will definitely be purchasing the O.T.O.’s 'The Unabridged Commentaries on Liber AL vel Legis’ when it/they eventually become available but in the meantime I will look for a copy of ‘Magical and Philosophical Commentaries’.

It makes one wonder not only what delights are contained in the latter but more so in the unpublished “comprehensive – voluminous, even” commentaries on The Book of the Law.

Magmus


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 Anonymous
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I just found 'The Magical and Philosophical Commentaries on the Book of Law' for sale online:

At Amazon it is going for a meagre £1,965.00! but is more reasonably priced at Abe Books at £270.54.

The Amazon copy is the 1974, 93 Publishing edition but the Abe Books one looks interesting as it is in fine condition and is well presented but has no date or publisher attached to it.

I might be able to stretch to that one in a month or two. Maybe I shouldn't be telling you all this as someone else might grab it!

Weiser Antiquarian don't have any copies, neither do Atlantis, Watkin's or Treadwell's.

Perhaps another LAShTAL member has a copy for sale?

Magmus


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Michael Staley
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"Magmus" wrote:
The Amazon copy is the 1974, 93 Publishing edition but the Abe Books one looks interesting as it is in fine condition and is well presented but has no date or publisher attached to it.

There was only one edition of the book, Magmus, so the ABEBooks copy will be the same publisher and year of publication as the one on Amazon. The Amazon copy sounds very optimistically priced, to say the least.


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jamie barter
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Hi Magmus,

I have over the years acquired 2 copies of the Magical & Philosophical Comms.  One has the three colour plates of Nuit, Hadit & RHK missing and some of the gilt coming off the cover, but other than that and a slight split in the binding, it is not marked and in a reasonably good condition.  The other is a bit more pristine.  Naturally I will wish to retain the latter.  Rather than haggle it might be better & more interesting to swap, if you perhaps have anything I might want in return.  As I am trying not to acquire any more books if possible since my flat is beginning to look like some sort of a warehouse, it will be up to you (if you have items yourself to get rid of) to try & present an interesting exchange if poss & we can continue by PM if you think this could be an option

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 Anonymous
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Thank you for your reply Michael,

The edition at Abe Books is different to the 93 Publishing 1974 edition though.

It is described as:

“A near fine copy of a book that looks to be privately printed, there is no mention of publishers name or date. Contents include: Liber Al vel Legis sub figure CCXX (The Typescript); Liber AL vel Legis sub figure XXXI (The Holograph); The Old and New Commentaries; the Commentaries called Djeridensis. The first chapter shows a copyright to Ordo Templi Orientis, the last chapter, listed as page 245, is called Photocopy of the Holograph and contains 70 pages of Crowley's hand written philosophy. Bound in black cloth with pasted down parchment title on front and spine”.

You can see pictures of it at the Abe Books website.

It looks like an interesting copy although it appears to have no index and since no editor is credited etc. I am skeptical about how accurate its contents might be.

The production i.e. typeset etc. looks very 90s to me.

Magmus


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 Anonymous
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Hello Jamie,

Thank you for your reply and offer to do a swap.

I am wondering why the three colour plates are missing. Is this because the book is falling apart or have they been cut out of the book? Is the slight split to the binding internal or external and how extensive is it? I am just wondering if the book is going to hold together for long. As far as swapping goes, I, like yourself, have amassed a large collection of tomes over the years, but most are rare hardcover books that I wish to hold on to. I generally buy a hardback copy that is kept as pristine as possible and a paperback version for general reading. The only books that may be of interest to you that I would be willing to swap, (unless of course you have them already), that I have I have more than one copy of are:

The Commentaries on the Holy Books, Crowley et al.-1996 Weiser First Edition, Paperback. Very good condition.

The General Principles of Astrology, Crowley-2002 Red Wheel/Weiser, Hardcover. Very good condition.

Liber Aleph, Crowley-2000 Weiser, Paperback. Good condition.

Beezlebub’s Tales to His Grandson, Gurdjieff-2006 Tarcher/Penguin Edition, Hardcover. Like new.

In Search of the Miraculous, P.D. Ouspensky (a key Gurdjieff student)-1950 Routledge and Kegan Paul, Hardcover. Acceptable.

The Book, Alan Watts-1969 Jonathan Cape, First UK Edition, Hardcover. Acceptable.

I have some other bits and pieces that are less expensive paperbacks too. Let me know if you are interested in doing an exchange and also please provide some more details about your books condition. If there isn’t anything that interests you then I could buy the book from you.

And to close with a ‘Barterism’:

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the sane,

Magmus


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 Anonymous
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Hi Jamie,

I just thought of a few more:

The Golden Dawn, Israel Regardie-1982 Llewellyn, Hardcover. Good condition.

Perdurabo, Richard Kaczynski-2010 North Atlantic Books, Hardcover. Very good condition.

The Lesser Key of Solomon, Peterson (Editor)-2001 Weiser, Harcover. Like new.

The Reality of Being, Jeanne De Salzmann-2010 Shambala, Hardcover. Like new.

Occult Philosophy or Magic, Agrippa-1975 Aquarian Press, hardcover. Good Condition.

All great books but once again I have two or more of each so I would be willing to swap them.

The more the merrier,

Magmus


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lashtal
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Please take your book swapping plans to Private Message or email and keep this thread on topic.

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 Anonymous
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Yes of course, sorry Paul.

Magmus


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Michael Staley
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"Magmus" wrote:
Thank you for your reply Michael,

The edition at Abe Books is different to the 93 Publishing 1974 edition though.

It is described as:

“A near fine copy of a book that looks to be privately printed, there is no mention of publishers name or date. Contents include: Liber Al vel Legis sub figure CCXX (The Typescript); Liber AL vel Legis sub figure XXXI (The Holograph); The Old and New Commentaries; the Commentaries called Djeridensis. The first chapter shows a copyright to Ordo Templi Orientis, the last chapter, listed as page 245, is called Photocopy of the Holograph and contains 70 pages of Crowley's hand written philosophy. Bound in black cloth with pasted down parchment title on front and spine”.

You can see pictures of it at the Abe Books website.

It looks like an interesting copy although it appears to have no index and since no editor is credited etc. I am skeptical about how accurate its contents might be.

The production i.e. typeset etc. looks very 90s to me.

Magmus

Many thanks, Magmus, for drawing this to my attention; I just browsed ABEBooks and viewed the several photographs. It's a fascinating item, apparently modelled to a large extent on the Grant and Symonds edition of 1974, though no doubt with differences.


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 Anonymous
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Hi Jamie,

I have sent you a private message with regard to the above exchange idea.

Magmus


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