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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

No, I can't agree. I think that's an absurd way to read a manuscript (I can hardly imagine what people might do with words taken my handwriting!). If ...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Here is a Crowley manuscript "Shit," from his diary for 4 October 1923. The text was printed in Stephen Skinner, The Magical Diaries of Aleister C...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

It's a typical Crowley "sp," of which there are 38 instances in the manuscript of the Book of the Law that you can compare it with, including another ...

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RE: Thelema in Animation & Comics

It's a modern comic series called "Fool," according to its creator Ronin635 (=DCXXXV), upthread about halfway, date of 19/04/2007 - On a more p...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

"Mad - bad - and dangerous to know" was how Lady Caroline Lamb (1785-1828) described Lord Byron (1788-1824) in her diary of 25 March 1812, after seein...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

That's very nice artwork, thanks for sharing it. I went looking for the vignettes for Chapter 64 of the Book of the Dead to see if they show twin h...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

Liber Israfel, sub figûra LXIV, is numbered 64, according to Crowley, because it is "a number of Mercury." 8 squared, and also Din and Doni, "twin mer...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

This is a parody of (very mediocre) poet Edgar Guest's "It takes a heap o’ livin’ in a house t’ make it home" When I was a teenager, I tried to im...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

For a brief, recent account of Crowley's and Farr's use of Chapter 64, there is Foy Scalf, editor, Book of the Dead: Becoming God in Ancient Egypt (Or...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

The source is Chapter 64 of the Book of the Dead, selections of which were published by Florence Farr, Egyptian Magic, 1896, p. 13. Ye Two Divine ...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

I think you have a good insight here for why most people find Crowley's poetry so "bad." They aren't self-contained, but require a key, or many keys. ...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

Regarding AL III:71 "Hail! Ye twin warriors about the pillars of the world," there is a parallel in Crowley's poetry, which is apparently derived from...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

Of course you may do as you please, but then I'll be as inclined to take your criticism of Crowley as seriously as I take his of W. B. Yeats or A. E. ...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

Dom David's conversation starters aren't always well-referenced, so it's helpful to put his offhand remarks in context. More importantly, it helps to ...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

Typo in my transcription of the original quote. It should be - "... it seemed to me to lack virility."

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

What about Crowley's "extended criticism" of Yeats in "The Equinox (vol. I, no. II, page 307)"? It's not there. I checked the 1929 edition of Co...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

Wilson, maddeningly, does not give a reference for the apparent quotation. It took me awhile to find it. Confessions, page 165: I remember one...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

The "two-pillar identification" was my conribution, not PerduraboST's. I believe so, at least. I've checked in the chapter where he brings up the Russ...

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RE: Yeats's poetry "lacked virlity"?

Ditto here. I think Hymn to Pan stands out. I'd say it transcends mere poetry, into actual incantation. Then there are the verses he got via magic...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Thank you very much for supplying that entry, Lutz! From that, I'd say that "I" refers to Victor Neuburg himself. It doesn't help us identifying the m...

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The only next step I can think of is to see the diary manuscript, if that is possible. It may or may not give some insight. But AC wasn't going by ...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

The syntax, or the form of the quote, doesn't help. If "I" refers to Neuburg himself, what would he have had to do with the manuscript of Liber L to b...

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RE: Head?

Because he wasn't.

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RE: Head?

Yes, Churton, Aleister Crowley: The Biography, starting page 39. Nothing new on AC particularly, just good background on this Carlist conspiracy, an...

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RE: Head?

It is part of the legitimist theory that the sovereign had abrogated to himself the monopoly of conferring spurs, while on the other hand a woman coul...

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RE: Head?

@ignant666 Great, thanks! I forgot to look it up. Don CARLOS, then. I'm sure I've read a more detailed account of this affair. Maybe in Churton...

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RE: Head?

He claims that he was knighted by... going by memory here, "Don Pedro," during the Spanish civil war. I'll find the reference. Not the later Spanish...

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RE: Head?

I'm not an expert on Freemasonry, but I'm confident that A:.A:. can not be considered in any way a Masonic group. O.T.O originated as an "Irregular"...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

threefold31 Speaking of latitude, a note of interest about the Straits of Gibraltar is "one of the principal parallels of latitude, by which Erato...

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RE: Head?

Bullshit, obviously. Here is his Masonic affiliation - "HRH Prince Philip, was passed and raised in Navy Lodge No. 2612 in the Metropolitan Grand ...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

Oh yes, it was always on his mind, and I suppose he kept the typescript close. This must be the one he had on him in 1905-6, when he visited Elaine Si...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

Fun fact: Crowley never crossed the equator (speaking of longitude and latitude). He was never in the southern hemisphere. The closest he ever came...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

The Pillars of Hercules are also close to the Prime Meridian (0° on the longitude scale, the basis of Universal Time, and Greenwich Mean Time) and Fr...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

I take AC's version of events as accurate, even to the hearing of the voice over his left shoulder, while at the same time echoing "in his heart." It ...

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RE: AL III:71 and the Russo-Japanese War of 1904

Thanks for pointing out the symbolic significance of that, which I hadn't thought of. I knew France was given Morocco by the Entente Cordiale, but I d...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

The prophylactic measures are taking a toll. We're all worn down, more or less listless, I guess. Even Googlhulthlu has its limits. Maybe video gaming...

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Two out of three of your prognostications were fulfilled sooner and more accurately than I could have imagined. Not only did we (in France, includi...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

I guess it's forensic if one presents the evidence in the form of an argument. I am doing that about the Isis versus Osiris, in order to weigh the pos...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Yes, it only matters which forgetfulness you choose to believe. For me, the earlier - Temple of Solomon the King - "7th of April" carries more weight ...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

There are still some possible avenues where the Almighty Google might help, but getting to the bottom of anything typically means writing to private i...

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Colin Macleod's generosity, relayed by Lutz, has saved me or us some pennies in this regard. I guess we unleashed that. We already knew what Isis was ...

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I'm titillated by the "hard-core" moniker. I could be even harder, but I'd need exponentially more resources, of the kind known as "currency," both li...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Wow, thanks! And thank Colin for sharing all the Lloyd's etc. for references to Osiris. I suppose those other two Osiri are not P&O ships. Not ...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Yes, I'm leaning more to the plausibility of Oceana-Isis transfer than the wild Osiris journey. Perdurabo ST's scenario does not take into account the...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Note that Macleod does not "definitively" show that Oceana arrived in Port Said on 18 April. This appears to be an assumption. Comparing the sources...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

No, Besant arrived in Port Said on the 19th, and departed on the 20th, on the Osiris. She got off of the Oceana because that was going on to Marseille...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

That IS the simplest explanation - a misreading or typo in Perdurabo ST's un-proofed pages. But even if it is, it is still remarkably fast to go from ...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Ah, yes! That's where I saw all those additional details in the mad rush of yesterday. Including the proof of Besant's departure from Bombay. But sh...

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RE: Crowley and his discrepancies

Perdurabo ST page 187 and note 824, with quotes from the Times/Lloyd's - Annie Besant can according to the Lloyd's Lists only have been on the...

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