Hi eol,Crowley's dating system isn't the most sensible, but I suppose if one accepts his claims then one has to work with the tools available; though ...
Hi Paul,It's been fun to pop in now and again to see how things are progressing. I know Eol has done a huge amount of work on the site, but it's also ...
Hi eol,Just looked at Lashtal today and it seems you're doing some excellent work, good luck with the rest of it and best wishes.Ian
I am seriously disappointed by the complete lack of moderation here. I don't intend to contribute further to this website.
Erwin,Gosh – hit a nerve, did I?Picking just one of your largely ad hominem attacks – your claim that I am 'utterly incapable of distinguishing betwee...
I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head there. And this view, that Thelema is non-dogmatic, is also typical of Crowley's followers. In fact,...
...or blackmailers
Erwin, "Erwin" wrote: Thelema is a philosophy of individual conduct which holds that the sole valid guide to conduct is the individual's ow...
Thanks, I'll bear your comments in mind.
"name538" wrote: Ok, if you do not accept Thelema as crowley presents it, nor it's application to the world. This is just a weird interp...
Well, I hope at least you understand that where I'm coming from is based on facts not fantasy.
Sure. So why do you think I disagree with Crowley's ideas?
The problem is that "spiritual currency" cannot be measured, hence even if there are a "few & secret" then that doesn't solve the wider problem.
Small groups of people who have decided to try to make something work on a small scale are a very different proposition. I recently created a society...
What you say is totally fanciful and ridiculous. Firstly, when you say "History has shown that the best societies are not fundamentally focused on the...
Camlion,I might point out that any system that demands adherence, rather than providing rewards, is doomed to fail. What is the "reward" for doing on...
name538, "name538" wrote: However when you are intentionally constructing a community, a society and a system that provides maximum integra...
name538,Clearly TBOTL is interested in predicting events up to 2,000 years in the future, so your "explanation" just seems like a rationalization. As...
"Camlion" wrote: Thank you for understanding, Ian. 😉 Well, some people just have a cognitive block when it comes to talking about "fasc...
Indeed, it seems AC made the same mistake as his contemporaries in thinking the state could regulate matters better than the market. This is why Thel...
Camlion,To your postscript, perhaps you assume that the consequences of not choosing "to abide in this bliss" are that the person is left to his own d...
Camlion, "Camlion" wrote: Ian, I should really wait until name538 and I complete this latest exchange of posts, but I suspect that he advoc...
Camlion,I am troubled by your recent comments about "fascism" and "right wing extremism". Despite the fact that those terms are hardly interchangeabl...
zardoz, "zardoz" wrote: "ianrons" wrote: but that Crowley specifically denied the student the right to rationally criticize hi...
"name538" wrote: Does your Physics professor allow you to question the law of gravity It depends on the Professor, and how enlightened h...
You have now taken a different position which connects Crowley to a position on "industrial consumerism", which (whether he did so or not) is not the ...
One might as well analogize (absent factual context) that the ship is not sinking and that the person telling you to jump overboard is a lunatic, with...
name538, what you have described is exactly what all cults seek to do: separate the cult-member from all other connections (esp. religion and family),...
You evidently find a lot of Crowley's pronouncements as bizarre and politically naïve as I do myself. He seemed to want to inculcate his particular an...
If he could deal with those line breaks I might actually be able to read some of his posts.
For those with an interest, there's another review of this book at .
Once you discredit the messenger, the message is worthless. DWTW, "Will", etc. – you don't need to buy that from him.
"tai" wrote: Of course that, in and of itself, is insufficient evidence. For some time now I've been looking for a smoking gun, an irrefuta...
Michael, "MichaelStaley" wrote: Doubtless you have proposed something, but you have not substantiated that proposition. I've laid out th...
piscean93,You raise a very important point: in Thelema, "there is no God but Man". So Man is God. Ergo, there is a God in Thelema. As I've noted el...
Noctifer, "Noctifer" wrote: the Tory thing - it's got nothing to do with Thelema at all. Whether or not Crowley was a Tory has nothing to d...
spike, "spike418" wrote: The real problem with threads like this is the complete absence of universal agreement on what constitutes both a ...
If you don't like talking about Crowley and his ideas then go somewhere else.
Lutz, "the_real_simon_iff" wrote: Frankly, I don't know very much about traditional Toryism, so I cannot agree or disagree with you. Ess...
P.S. Incidentally, it occurs to me that Crowley's theological kritarchy is very similar to Velayat-e Faqih, the much-reviled political system of Iran....
Lutz,True, AC was frequently scathing about the accumulation of wealth (obviously he saw the suit of Coins as just one aspect of life, not the most im...
Los, "Los" wrote: Oh noes! We can't have the dreaded "government handouts" in the form of any kind of safety net for society. No, no -- far...
I believe that at least some of this Act will be covered by the "Great Repeal Bill" that the Conservatives intend to put before Parliament immediately...
No Michael, you are ignorant of the situation, and presumptuous. See sections 9(1)(b), 13(1) and 78 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003."Touching" that i...
Camlion, "Camlion" wrote: I had thought for a moment when writing before that the loss of freedoms inherent to socialism would be commonly ...
"Camlion" wrote: No, actually, this example is false. Firstly, socialism is not feasible economically and therefore will not work regardles...
mika, "mika" wrote: No. Thelema isn't a religion. Well, we've had this debate before so I won't return to that, suffice to say that it s...
Robert, "Robert_an_Keow" wrote: "The principle of popular election is a fatal folly; its results are visible in every so-called democracy. ...