ianrons
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RE: Thelemic Time Server v2 BETA - available for testing

Hi eol,Crowley's dating system isn't the most sensible, but I suppose if one accepts his claims then one has to work with the tools available; though ...

10 years ago
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RE: Thelemic Time Server v2 BETA - available for testing

Hi Paul,It's been fun to pop in now and again to see how things are progressing. I know Eol has done a huge amount of work on the site, but it's also ...

10 years ago
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RE: Latest upgrades on LAShTAL

Hi eol,Just looked at Lashtal today and it seems you're doing some excellent work, good luck with the rest of it and best wishes.Ian

11 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

I am seriously disappointed by the complete lack of moderation here. I don't intend to contribute further to this website.

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Erwin,Gosh – hit a nerve, did I?Picking just one of your largely ad hominem attacks – your claim that I am 'utterly incapable of distinguishing betwee...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head there. And this view, that Thelema is non-dogmatic, is also typical of Crowley's followers. In fact,...

13 years ago
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RE: Serious detective work

...or blackmailers

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Erwin, "Erwin" wrote: Thelema is a philosophy of individual conduct which holds that the sole valid guide to conduct is the individual's ow...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Thanks, I'll bear your comments in mind.

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

"name538" wrote: Ok, if you do not accept Thelema as crowley presents it, nor it's application to the world. This is just a weird interp...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Well, I hope at least you understand that where I'm coming from is based on facts not fantasy.

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Sure. So why do you think I disagree with Crowley's ideas?

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

The problem is that "spiritual currency" cannot be measured, hence even if there are a "few & secret" then that doesn't solve the wider problem.

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Small groups of people who have decided to try to make something work on a small scale are a very different proposition. I recently created a society...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

What you say is totally fanciful and ridiculous. Firstly, when you say "History has shown that the best societies are not fundamentally focused on the...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Camlion,I might point out that any system that demands adherence, rather than providing rewards, is doomed to fail. What is the "reward" for doing on...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

name538, "name538" wrote: However when you are intentionally constructing a community, a society and a system that provides maximum integra...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

name538,Clearly TBOTL is interested in predicting events up to 2,000 years in the future, so your "explanation" just seems like a rationalization. As...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

"Camlion" wrote: Thank you for understanding, Ian. πŸ˜‰ Well, some people just have a cognitive block when it comes to talking about "fasc...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Indeed, it seems AC made the same mistake as his contemporaries in thinking the state could regulate matters better than the market. This is why Thel...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Camlion,To your postscript, perhaps you assume that the consequences of not choosing "to abide in this bliss" are that the person is left to his own d...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Camlion, "Camlion" wrote: Ian, I should really wait until name538 and I complete this latest exchange of posts, but I suspect that he advoc...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

Camlion,I am troubled by your recent comments about "fascism" and "right wing extremism". Despite the fact that those terms are hardly interchangeabl...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

zardoz, "zardoz" wrote: "ianrons" wrote: but that Crowley specifically denied the student the right to rationally criticize hi...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

"name538" wrote: Does your Physics professor allow you to question the law of gravity It depends on the Professor, and how enlightened h...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

You have now taken a different position which connects Crowley to a position on "industrial consumerism", which (whether he did so or not) is not the ...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

One might as well analogize (absent factual context) that the ship is not sinking and that the person telling you to jump overboard is a lunatic, with...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

name538, what you have described is exactly what all cults seek to do: separate the cult-member from all other connections (esp. religion and family),...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

You evidently find a lot of Crowley's pronouncements as bizarre and politically naΓ―ve as I do myself. He seemed to want to inculcate his particular an...

13 years ago
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RE: Thelema-like qualities of Thelema?

If he could deal with those line breaks I might actually be able to read some of his posts.

13 years ago
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RE: Review: The Book of Abramelin (ed. Georg Dehn)

For those with an interest, there's another review of this book at .

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Once you discredit the messenger, the message is worthless. DWTW, "Will", etc. – you don't need to buy that from him.

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

"tai" wrote: Of course that, in and of itself, is insufficient evidence. For some time now I've been looking for a smoking gun, an irrefuta...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Michael, "MichaelStaley" wrote: Doubtless you have proposed something, but you have not substantiated that proposition. I've laid out th...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

piscean93,You raise a very important point: in Thelema, "there is no God but Man". So Man is God. Ergo, there is a God in Thelema. As I've noted el...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Noctifer, "Noctifer" wrote: the Tory thing - it's got nothing to do with Thelema at all. Whether or not Crowley was a Tory has nothing to d...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

spike, "spike418" wrote: The real problem with threads like this is the complete absence of universal agreement on what constitutes both a ...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

If you don't like talking about Crowley and his ideas then go somewhere else.

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Lutz, "the_real_simon_iff" wrote: Frankly, I don't know very much about traditional Toryism, so I cannot agree or disagree with you. Ess...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

P.S. Incidentally, it occurs to me that Crowley's theological kritarchy is very similar to Velayat-e Faqih, the much-reviled political system of Iran....

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Lutz,True, AC was frequently scathing about the accumulation of wealth (obviously he saw the suit of Coins as just one aspect of life, not the most im...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Los, "Los" wrote: Oh noes! We can't have the dreaded "government handouts" in the form of any kind of safety net for society. No, no -- far...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

I believe that at least some of this Act will be covered by the "Great Repeal Bill" that the Conservatives intend to put before Parliament immediately...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

No Michael, you are ignorant of the situation, and presumptuous. See sections 9(1)(b), 13(1) and 78 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003."Touching" that i...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Camlion, "Camlion" wrote: I had thought for a moment when writing before that the loss of freedoms inherent to socialism would be commonly ...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

"Camlion" wrote: No, actually, this example is false. Firstly, socialism is not feasible economically and therefore will not work regardles...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

mika, "mika" wrote: No. Thelema isn't a religion. Well, we've had this debate before so I won't return to that, suffice to say that it s...

13 years ago
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RE: Can one be a Thelemite and not a Tory?

Robert, "Robert_an_Keow" wrote: "The principle of popular election is a fatal folly; its results are visible in every so-called democracy. ...

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