@kidneyhawk, as I have pointed out my reason for leaving active participation was personal and unrelated to the O.T.O. I also pointed out that Paul kn...

@ignant666 the actual quote from the book does not contain the phrase "that OTO members must avoid". In actual fact in context the quote is merely the...

As a longtime member of LAShTAL.com and a senior member of the O.T.O. I have to admit that I am befuddled as to any claim that members of the O.T.O. a...

Here are some real stats that surveys have fond. There exists many similar surveys and they show similar findings. While belief in supernatural ideas ...

Selfseeker...It is kind of funny that you attempt to prove your point with reference to anecdotal experiences, when much criticism has (rightly in my ...

"Los" wrote: Thanks again for the thorough reply. Before I take the time to sit down and compose a reply to each of your points – which is ...

"Los" wrote: You mention several pieces of private correspondence in which Crowley defines Thelema as something other than a code of conduc...

"Los" wrote: Thank you for the very thoughtful post and for your kind words at the end. No problem, I just call it as I see it and try to...

I will respond later to the rest of your posts, but I thought I would clarify some things you wondered about.No Crowley drafted the Clear Crowley's na...

I will probably regret sticking my head into this nest of hornet, but here goes anyway...Los has proposed that Thelema is a code of individual action ...

Bravo Krzysztof! I think a great deal of mischief could be avoided if people stopped confusing the planes. The O.T.O., as reformulated by Crowley, is ...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Enjoying your battle against straw-men still I see? If you see yourself as differing ...

"Camlion" wrote: I should add that I do think there is place for Thelemic Religion for those so inclined. I think that it could be an impor...

"Camlion" wrote: Here I am caught between complacent Magicians and the over-zealously Religious. Story of my life. And yes, I do realize th...

"Camlion" wrote: Patriarch156, please see the edit to my last post, and I apologize for not completing before your speedy response. I do ...

"Camlion" wrote: It is this period of Crowley's maturity to which I refer. Yes which contrary to what you wrote did not occur during the ...

"Camlion" wrote: By then he had even changed his mind about "Magick is for ALL," and deferred Magick to those few with a natural interest a...

"uranus" wrote: My personal paradigm is always in flux though depending on what I need to accomplish my Will in that moment. In other wor...

"zardoz" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: I wonder what it is about thi...

"zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: I wonder what it is about this work that Zardoz thinks would be of low priority to Crowley. I...

"zardoz" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: In other words there is no significant edits as far as I remember to the actual content ...

"zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: So what, you doubt that the essay should be attributed Crowley as published, and dismiss it o...

"zardoz" wrote: Perhaps we can infer that Crowley wasn't ever satisfied with "Duty?". That would explain the extensive editing to it and th...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: As such it is not a given that one should let stars shine, nor is it a fact of nature t...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Despite Crowley's driven self-promotion of his new Law, I do not really think that the ...

"Camlion" wrote: By way of providing some context, I posted the link to Duty after reading the following statement by Los in the tainted th...

"the_real_simon_iff" wrote: That's exactly what I mean. Earnestly discussing what Crowley have written and what he might have meant, togeth...

"the_real_simon_iff" wrote: and so it's not really "officially" binding for anyone to follow it, it merely shows AC's opinions, which are q...

"Azidonis" wrote: 93,The full text can be found online here, and many other places. Enjoy the debate.93 93/93___________ While I think la...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" ...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Crowley certainly thou...

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Crowley certainly thought[] so if going from his words in Duty. Well, apparently this...

"wolf354" wrote: 93,I've watched an Egyptian leader yesterday talking about how the Muslims are already expecting that sooner or later thei...

"OKontrair" wrote: I am sure that is very interesting to lots of people but this really isn't the place for it. Even though it's your origi...

"Azidonis" wrote: 93, "Grutas" wrote: "The Word, which none but a Magus can receive from the Secret Chiefs and transmit to membe...

Los, just a brief note as that is all I have time for right now. I am well aware of its usage, it is just that noone in the 20 years I have been invol...

"HG" wrote: To continue my analogy, Catholic scientists and engineers who use Newton's equations are not pestered by people claiming: "If ...

"HG" wrote: "the_real_simon_iff" wrote: But I will leave him with Los tapping their shoulders. It must be so hard for you both...

"Los" wrote: See, here’s the problem, Camlion. All you can do is point to stuff that Crowley writes and then say silly things like, “Oh, yo...

"Azidonis" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: To be frank, whenever people paraphrase Crowley I prefer the original words instead ...

"Los" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: It begins here, in Liber AL:AL I,40: Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but c...

"Azidonis" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Los wrote: Obviously. As he himself noted, he was the first and "therefore worst Thele...

Los wrote: Obviously. As he himself noted, he was the first and "therefore worst Thelemite."Where exactly did Crowley ever note this?

Actually he tried both radio and film. As for the internet, given its distractive nature and his views of the newspapers I sometimes wonder if he inst...

In this order: News, galleries bibliography and forums.

The main boon of this site to most of those who visits it Ibelieve to not be these forums, but rather the news, the galleries and all the other parts ...

"Los" wrote: Whatever one makes of the sigils -- which were apparently "received" much earlier than the verses -- I certainly wouldn't cons...

Los, given that Crowley thought of, wrote about and applied the Law of Thelema to things far beyond a philosophy of individual conduct that revolves a...

I second the statements that given the manifest influence Crowley had on Grant, and perhaps even more importantly his significant role in caretaking h...

"Los" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: If however it is merely an inspirational text, then anyone's reading of the Book is as good...