Patriarch156
@patriarch156
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Joined: Jun 3, 2005
Last seen: Nov 5, 2023
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RE: The Golden Cipher

My apologies if I was unclear. I meant that the period where he first launched Thelema as a serious concern was the Equinox era, starting with the boo...

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RE: The Golden Cipher

Yes, it is quite a spin. If Crowley had believed these things were worthless he would not have long and detailed discussions with David Curwen, to nam...

1 month ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

Correction regarding the Jung quote at the end due to my careless editing of my response. The Jung quote consisted only of the following (the first pa...

2 months ago
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RE: Is there a place for Marxism in Thelema?

@kidneyhawk, while not a fan at all of Ayn Rand myself, I certainly see how AC might have thought otherwise, and how several artists were inspired by ...

2 months ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

While I am not a big fan of Kenneth Grant's writings myself, having never gotten much out of them, I do get what you mean. You might find it profitabl...

2 months ago
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RE: Is there a place for Marxism in Thelema?

I have not read the Fountainhead, the only book Vrowley to my knowledge ever ready by Ayn Rand, so I could not say luch about its literary qualities, ...

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RE: Leah Hirsig

@the_real_simon_iff I believe AC returned to England and never left in late 1932 after his brief stint in Germany between 1930-1932, but your point st...

2 months ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

Right, the question of what went down in Hirsig’s life is a historical question that ought to be answered using normal historical methods. It is not a...

2 months ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

@aleisterion in december 1929 e.v. she had had no contact with AC for several years. She certainly did not serve as his secretary after this date. As ...

2 months ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

I think the fact that she no longer used the thelemic greetings speaks volumes, but that is me. This IMO should not come as a surprise. After all, a...

2 months ago
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RE: Leah Hirsig

This circular notice from 1929 e.v. by Leah Hirsig to the various Thelemites that she had presented herself as the Scarlet Woman to, might be of inter...

2 months ago
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RE: The airtight arguments of Jerry Cornelius?: Review of "The Cult Of Aleister Crowley"

@kidneyhawk, as I have pointed out my reason for leaving active participation was personal and unrelated to the O.T.O. I also pointed out that Paul kn...

2 years ago
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RE: The airtight arguments of Jerry Cornelius?: Review of "The Cult Of Aleister Crowley"

@ignant666 the actual quote from the book does not contain the phrase "that OTO members must avoid". In actual fact in context the quote is merely the...

2 years ago
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RE: The airtight arguments of Jerry Cornelius?: Review of "The Cult Of Aleister Crowley"

As a longtime member of LAShTAL.com and a senior member of the O.T.O. I have to admit that I am befuddled as to any claim that members of the O.T.O. a...

2 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

Here are some real stats that surveys have fond. There exists many similar surveys and they show similar findings. While belief in supernatural ideas ...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

Selfseeker...It is kind of funny that you attempt to prove your point with reference to anecdotal experiences, when much criticism has (rightly in my ...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

"Los" wrote: Thanks again for the thorough reply. Before I take the time to sit down and compose a reply to each of your points – which is ...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

"Los" wrote: You mention several pieces of private correspondence in which Crowley defines Thelema as something other than a code of conduc...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

"Los" wrote: Thank you for the very thoughtful post and for your kind words at the end. No problem, I just call it as I see it and try to...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

I will respond later to the rest of your posts, but I thought I would clarify some things you wondered about.No Crowley drafted the Clear Crowley's na...

12 years ago
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RE: What is a true act of magick ?

I will probably regret sticking my head into this nest of hornet, but here goes anyway...Los has proposed that Thelema is a code of individual action ...

12 years ago
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RE: Initiation

Bravo Krzysztof! I think a great deal of mischief could be avoided if people stopped confusing the planes. The O.T.O., as reformulated by Crowley, is ...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Enjoying your battle against straw-men still I see? If you see yourself as differing ...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: I should add that I do think there is place for Thelemic Religion for those so inclined. I think that it could be an impor...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: Here I am caught between complacent Magicians and the over-zealously Religious. Story of my life. And yes, I do realize th...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: Patriarch156, please see the edit to my last post, and I apologize for not completing before your speedy response. I do ...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: It is this period of Crowley's maturity to which I refer. Yes which contrary to what you wrote did not occur during the ...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: By then he had even changed his mind about "Magick is for ALL," and deferred Magick to those few with a natural interest a...

12 years ago
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RE: The Aeon of Ma'at

"uranus" wrote: My personal paradigm is always in flux though depending on what I need to accomplish my Will in that moment. In other wor...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"zardoz" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: I wonder what it is about thi...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: I wonder what it is about this work that Zardoz thinks would be of low priority to Crowley. I...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"zardoz" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: In other words there is no significant edits as far as I remember to the actual content ...

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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"zardoz" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: So what, you doubt that the essay should be attributed Crowley as published, and dismiss it o...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"zardoz" wrote: Perhaps we can infer that Crowley wasn't ever satisfied with "Duty?". That would explain the extensive editing to it and th...

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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: As such it is not a given that one should let stars shine, nor is it a fact of nature t...

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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Despite Crowley's driven self-promotion of his new Law, I do not really think that the ...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Camlion" wrote: By way of providing some context, I posted the link to Duty after reading the following statement by Los in the tainted th...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"the_real_simon_iff" wrote: That's exactly what I mean. Earnestly discussing what Crowley have written and what he might have meant, togeth...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"the_real_simon_iff" wrote: and so it's not really "officially" binding for anyone to follow it, it merely shows AC's opinions, which are q...

12 years ago
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RE: Crowley's "Duty"

"Azidonis" wrote: 93,The full text can be found online here, and many other places. Enjoy the debate.93 93/93___________ While I think la...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" ...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: "Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Crowley certainly thou...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"Camlion" wrote: "Patriarch156" wrote: Crowley certainly thought[] so if going from his words in Duty. Well, apparently this...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"wolf354" wrote: 93,I've watched an Egyptian leader yesterday talking about how the Muslims are already expecting that sooner or later thei...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"OKontrair" wrote: I am sure that is very interesting to lots of people but this really isn't the place for it. Even though it's your origi...

12 years ago
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RE: The word of the equinox

"Azidonis" wrote: 93, "Grutas" wrote: "The Word, which none but a Magus can receive from the Secret Chiefs and transmit to membe...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

Los, just a brief note as that is all I have time for right now. I am well aware of its usage, it is just that noone in the 20 years I have been invol...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"HG" wrote: To continue my analogy, Catholic scientists and engineers who use Newton's equations are not pestered by people claiming: "If ...

12 years ago
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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"HG" wrote: "the_real_simon_iff" wrote: But I will leave him with Los tapping their shoulders. It must be so hard for you both...

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RE: Aleister Crowley and 'magical fascism'

"Los" wrote: See, here’s the problem, Camlion. All you can do is point to stuff that Crowley writes and then say silly things like, “Oh, yo...

12 years ago
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